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  September 7, 2008 - 10:57pm | TheSdog

Blog tourist?

You must be.

Gunny French is about as much of a partisan Dem hack as someone can be. He also has fumbled this ball with his public comments.

The thing is "Troopergate" was not his idea. It was actually broken by former Republican Andrew Halcro. Now, the Palin Posse will claim he full of "sour grapes" because they can never answer what he says. So you may as well learn that one if you are going to come on here aligning with The Posse.

You may want to see how the committee voted on whether or not to investigate whether abuse of power took place.

Maybe you think it is okay for a governor to use her position to settle a personal vendetta. Some of us do not and think an investigation is warranted.

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  September 8, 2008 - 3:13am | wildbill3

Maybe...

...but French has a dog in this fight, and has stepped way outside of his role using this so-called investigation to further his career and bolster his candidate Obama. Like it or not his words speak for themselves. He needs to step down. He has a fiduciary responsibility to keep his mouth shut about the "investigation" but has chosen to use it for his own political aspirations. This is a "bi-partisan" group. What he is doing is using state money to make a political attack, and support Obama for president. That is unethical and an illegal use of state resources.

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  September 8, 2008 - 9:33am | TheSdog

Billy

French did not call for this investigation by himself. It was not a partisan call.

His statements are typical Gunny nonsense. He also was saying the same kind of garbage before The Palin was the VP nominee.

Your post is at least as partisan in its dishonesty as Gunny.

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  September 6, 2008 - 7:52pm | rfn

The "unfortunate" remarks were not the starting point

for suspicions that the "investigation" might be less than fair and considerably less than impartial.

The beginning came when it was announced, here in The ADN, that Mr. French had known Mr. Branchflower for some time and it might be unlikely that French could be unaware that a family member had, at one time, worked for Monegan.

This does not rule out an impartial investigation but it does raise questions.

The proper thing might have been to change investigators; perhaps someone from out of state. Alaska is a small place politically and it's pretty tough to find someone who is not somehow linked to anyone else. Perhaps two or three times removed but still linked.

It was when the above, coupled with some very early unfortunate statements, made it plain that anybody asked to testify needs to be represented by competent counsel.

Since then the slide downhill has accelerated. There are tall, stout trees ahead!

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  September 7, 2008 - 11:42am | happydays

Let's just get to the bottom of this and stop the rumors

It seems that no matter who a person supports, there is reason to not want the investigation and follow on report to be out there. Why is that?

Why don't we as Alaskans want to know what really happened with all this mess? Why are we wanting the swirling to continue?

Why don't we as Americans want to know what type of integrity our potential VP has? She welcomed the investigation, she told us to hold her accountable. The only way to keep that intact is to complete the investigation, report the findings and get the truth out there.

Anything less than that questions what really happened.

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  September 6, 2008 - 3:03pm | rfn

Is it not Mr. French

who, together with Mr. Gara, is advancing the case for acceptance of Medicare patients by all Alaska physicians as a condition of licensing?

That matter alone requires near full attention to overcome what surely must be strongly organized opposition. It's another reason why he should step down from working on the "investigation" to as to become more tightly focused on the growing problem of Medicare members access to health care.

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  September 6, 2008 - 1:07pm | akwillis

Palin so expertly exploits the images you describe.....

As long as our State Constitution sustains a legislature based on secrecy,seniority, and the ability to purchase and sell political influence so easily, Hollis French and John Coghill, each with very little ability to debate issues in an open forum, will be able to function as effective legislators - and they will be re-elected to office.
Palin gave and gives the image (and perhaps the image only) of an alternative to the world of French and Coghill. As I said in another post, she is so attractive to Alaskans and the National Party because she appears to be the only Rose in a bed of fertilizer.

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  September 6, 2008 - 9:37am | Cartman3_15

I didn't realize the investigation was over.

What a pitiful two-bit propagandist you are, Dog. I'd suggest checking the definition of "fact", but I know you don't care that you are misusing it to further your personal agenda.

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  September 6, 2008 - 9:52am | TheSdog

What personal agenda?

It is a fact. We know Frank Baily put pressure on. That is not in dispute.

I suppose we do not know if Palin knew or not. so, that may be overstated a bit.

So, she is either unaware of what is going on in heradministration or abused or power. One of the two is a fact so take your choice.

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  September 6, 2008 - 5:27pm | lom

you 2

are a couple of characters. Either of you read Wooten's record? First, 5 days on the beach is a big deal in his career field. Second, IF his published record is true (and he's not denying it) he should have been fired, and the Palins and Heaths have every right to question that decision.

There is no question he is a problem employee who should not represent AST. Why he wasn't fired should be the center of your discussion.

Monegan is very personable, but the record will show he did not accomplish the tasks he was appointed for. If the mishandling of the Wooten case was the straw that broke the camel's back--so be it.

Bottom line: Monegan was an "at will" employee and has no recourse. The Governor acted appropriately.

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  September 6, 2008 - 6:06pm | TheSdog

Wooten

should not be a state tooper. So what?

There are plenty of people working at all kinds of jobs that should not be there. There are plenty of people who have been protected by unions. There are plenty who have been protected by connections.

Have you ever been in a command position?

It is extremely important to avoid even the perception of bias or favortism.

The Palin-Heath Clan have a right to question the decision. The Palin does not have a right to use her power in a position of authority to exert undue influence.

Bailey's phone call specifically mentions Todd and Sarah by name. The few emails that have leaked out show Sarah had a pattern of bringing Wooten up at every possible opportunity.

There are reasons why these protections exist. What if Wooten was not a bad trooper and the pressure was placed? It is not the case but you begin to understand the problem if you look from that perspective.

I once had a General's wife demand that I give her a handicap sticker even though she did not need it. She got huffy and filed complaints and even got her husband involved. Now, it turned out okay but that is not always the case in these issues. The protections are there for a reason.

There are other issues here as well. The Palin participating in filing complaints 2 years after the fact just because now her sister is getting divorced? The large number of unsubstantiated complaints?

Monegan being fired may not be the ultimate issue here. The issue is did the Palin or her staff or her husband exert influence thereby abusing power.

Decisions get made all the time that people disagree with. If you or I have a relative who is a state trooper we can challenge decisions but we do not have power over the people we are talking to. A leader needs to be able to recognize this and separate themselves. The Palin at least appears to have violated that principle.

The end cannot justify the means and your argument is trying to make that the case.

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  September 6, 2008 - 6:31pm | lom

No

I actually agree the ends do not justify the means--I disagree with you on the meaning of "undue influence" but concede neither of us have a full set of facts.

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  September 6, 2008 - 6:36pm | TheSdog

.

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  September 6, 2008 - 6:38pm | lom

Huh?

since when did a piece of paper have a face? ,,,"screw you guys I'm go'in home...."

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  September 6, 2008 - 10:14am | Cartman3_15

More spin.

It is a FACT that Bailey called trooper Dial. It is not a fact about pressure being applied. This is interpretive, subjective. Big difference.

Monegan is on record as saying he did not feel pressured to fire Wooten. He is also on record saying no one ever told him to fire Wooten.

These are FACTS, Dog. The rest is more wishful thinking on your part.

It is not surprising, given your inability to separate fact from opinion, that you did not have a successful career in journalism.

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  September 6, 2008 - 10:24am | TheSdog

cartman

We have all heard the phone call. Your hero even put him on administrative leave after it came out. She knows there is a problem even if you as a Palin Posse minion refuse to see it.

It is a FACT pressure was applied.

Watch Monegan's CNBC interview. He tried to play it close to the vest and not get embroiled in the whole mess. He was still trying to be the "good soldier." The problem is when The Palin started denying everything his conscience caught up with him.

And whatexactly is in some of those e-mails that your "open and transparent" hero is trying to hide?

Cartman, you will do anything you can to defend Palin and that is a FACT.

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  September 6, 2008 - 10:52am | Cartman3_15

Again, Dog

I encourage you to look up the definition of "fact". Until you do, I have no interest in another round of your patented dishonest debating, where you change the terms to fit your side of the argument.

I notice you continue to ignore the FACT that Monegan said he never felt pressured. Pretty much sums up what you're all about.

You'll do anything, no matter how dishonest, to make Palin look bad. You cut the liar Monegan all kinds of slack at the same time you're jumping to unproven conclusions about Palin.

Again, that pretty much sums up what you're all about.

Now please, come back at me with more personal attacks that ignore the real FACTS of this issue. Spin, spin, spin!! It's what you do best.

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  September 6, 2008 - 11:28am | TheSdog

Cartman

“Gov. Palin's husband, Todd Palin, met with Monegan [the fired state police chief] in January 2007, a month after his wife took office, to say that the trooper was unfit for the force. Monegan also said the governor sent him e-mails, but Monegan declined to disclose them, saying he planned to give them to the independent prosecutor.

Monegan has repeatedly said Wooten was mentioned to him although the words "fire him" were never used. You are the one always complaining about weasel language and yet are so fast to let the Palin snakes slither away here.

And you say you are not a Posse hack?

I guess the lie Palin told that no one in her admistration talked to DPS about Wooten was okay.

I guess it was okay that they invaded a state employee's privacy by looking at a file inappropriately was okay as well?

What was your position on the Patriot act again?

Keep goin cartman because the more you flail away the more the blog tourists get an idea of exactly what kind of silly people circle the wagons around The Palin.

I could provide links all day by the way but perhaps you should actually go learn something. I suppose if you had links you might actually provide one here or there instaed of just launching into a litany of ad hominen attacks.

Do us all a favor. If you are going to continue to fire off attacks at least get clever or develop a sense of humor. I want to be able to laugh with you and not just at you.

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  September 6, 2008 - 11:37am | Cartman3_15

Keep defending the liar

As long as you continue to ignore Monegan's stake in this, you cannot be taken seriously.

If Palin lied, appropriate action should be taken. If personnel records were inappropriately accessed, that should be addressed and punished. Are we clear? I don't hear anyone white-washing any alleged crimes, especially me.

Now, Dog, if you can (and I'm betting you can't), tell me why anyone should take Monegan's word for anything. At different times, he has said: 1- he was not pressured; 2- he was pressured.

The bottom line is this -- he lied at least once. And yet you give him a free pass because it suits your irrational grievance against Palin. This is why you continue to be the blog version of the court jester.

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  September 6, 2008 - 12:06pm | TheSdog

Cartman

Whether Monegan is a self serving squirrel is not really relevant. My general feeling about him is that he has always been a weasel. In fact, I said as much on this blog when Palin appointed him.

Do I think Monegan smells his 15 minutes of fame? Absolutely, just like every person who left the Bush and Clinton White Houses and wrote a book. I guarantee you Monegan is thinking book.

He gets no free pass from me but he also is no less trustworthy than palin on the issue.

It should be obvious to you Palin has similar issues as well. She was for an investigation before she was against. She said nobody in her staff had contacted DPS about Wooten before she held a news conference to say differently.

This whole case is full of people shifting. That includes Palin as well as members of her staff. Some of those e-mails are out there and they will eventually come out.

Palin lied at least once and you really are giving her a free pass.

Keep going cartman, the blog tourists need to understand the true blind nature of a Palin Posse member.

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  September 6, 2008 - 1:13pm | Cartman3_15

Pay attention. Please.

From my previous post, which you obvious were incapable of comprehending:

"If Palin lied, appropriate action should be taken. If personnel records were inappropriately accessed, that should be addressed and punished. Are we clear? I don't hear anyone white-washing any alleged crimes, especially me."

This is not giving Palin a "free pass." A free pass would be ignoring, repeatedly, anything that doesn't fit my argument. You know, sort of like you done in this thread with Monegan.

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  September 6, 2008 - 1:55pm | TheSdog

cartman

We already know she lied. That is a fact. We know Frank Bailey interefered. It is still false and a lie even if she did not know.

We also know Todd Palin interfered and although not a "staff member" it stinks just as bad.

These are facts.

So, by your own admission just now, action should be taken against Palin. You can know that without the investigation.

So, what action will you take now confronted with a fact?

Oh, you will not take action, so you are giving her a free pass.

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