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Coghill to Leg. Council chair: Remove French from 'troopergate' oversight

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Posted: September 5, 2008 - 10:57 am

From Wesley Loy in Anchorage --

A ranking Republican state representative is calling for Anchorage Democratic Sen. Hollis French to step down as manager of the Legislature’s “troopergate” investigation.

Rep. John Coghill, R-North Pole, today released a letter criticizing statements French purportedly made in media interviews.

Coghill said French remarked that a forthcoming legislative investigation into Gov. Sarah Palin’s firing of her former public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, is “likely to be damaging to the administration” and has twice suggested the governor faces potential impeachment.

“These statements cause me to think that the report is already written even though the investigation is only just begun and the most important witnesses have not even been interviewed,” Coghill’s letter says. “The investigation appears to be lacking in fairness, neutrality and due process.”

Coghill wrote the letter to Sen. Kim Elton, D-Juneau, who chairs the bipartisan legislative panel that hired independent investigator Steve Branchflower and designated French as “project director” for the investigation. Coghill is a member of the panel, known as the Legislative Council.

Branchflower is examining whether Palin dismissed Monegan for failure to fire a state trooper involved in a messy divorce with Palin’s sister.

A call to French for comment was not immediately returned.

Coghill said French, in an interviewed carried on ABCNews.com, said the report would be an “October surprise” for the Palin administration.

“Sen. French’s public statements regarding “October surprises,’ his indication that the report’s conclusion has already been written, and his comments implying that he has undisclosed information that would make the Governor unfit to be the nominee for Vice-President of the United States all are direct contrast with the goals of professionalism, lack of bias, and an apolitical investigation,” Coghill’s letter says.

Coghill said he no longer has confidence in French managing Branchflower and the legislative investigation.

Coghill is a ranking member of the state House, serving as chairman of the powerful Rules Committee.

French chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee.

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16 September 10, 2008 - 8:40am | cosmo96

Senator French is a Obama supporter (you must see this photo)

For anyone doubting that this whole ”investigation” is a partisan scam cooked up by a bunch of good-old-boy political hacks, here’s a smoking gun from the Obama-Biden campaign web site:

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5350/troopergateim8.jpg

The man overseeing the “investigation,” Sen. Hollis French, is the bald guy near the back (fifth from left, by the Obama ‘08 posters). Any doubts about this hack’s objectivity yet?

15 September 8, 2008 - 1:55am | johnsboss

Well said Sdog!

I'm laughing at the Palinbots too. Can't do their darn research.....geesh!

14 September 7, 2008 - 9:58pm | Heartlander

Troopergate inquiry=witch hunt led by Obama supporting Dem

The media has been distorting this story from the start. Hollis French, who is overseeing the Troopergate investigation (read: witch hunt), is a partisan democrat Obama supporter.

His leaking information damaging to Palin about the as yet unwritten final report is well known, but now French has lied about the nature of his role in the investigation.

The legislature hired an "independent" investigator to take the politics out of this. French says that he has not influenced the investigation, but there is smoking gun proof that he has!

Not WRIGHT for America has been all over Hollis French on his numerous transgressions, which the media don't want people to know about. It's all there.

September 7, 2008 - 10:57pm | TheSdog

Blog tourist?

You must be.

Gunny French is about as much of a partisan Dem hack as someone can be. He also has fumbled this ball with his public comments.

The thing is "Troopergate" was not his idea. It was actually broken by former Republican Andrew Halcro. Now, the Palin Posse will claim he full of "sour grapes" because they can never answer what he says. So you may as well learn that one if you are going to come on here aligning with The Posse.

You may want to see how the committee voted on whether or not to investigate whether abuse of power took place.

Maybe you think it is okay for a governor to use her position to settle a personal vendetta. Some of us do not and think an investigation is warranted.

September 8, 2008 - 3:13am | wildbill3

Maybe...

...but French has a dog in this fight, and has stepped way outside of his role using this so-called investigation to further his career and bolster his candidate Obama. Like it or not his words speak for themselves. He needs to step down. He has a fiduciary responsibility to keep his mouth shut about the "investigation" but has chosen to use it for his own political aspirations. This is a "bi-partisan" group. What he is doing is using state money to make a political attack, and support Obama for president. That is unethical and an illegal use of state resources.

September 8, 2008 - 9:33am | TheSdog

Billy

French did not call for this investigation by himself. It was not a partisan call.

His statements are typical Gunny nonsense. He also was saying the same kind of garbage before The Palin was the VP nominee.

Your post is at least as partisan in its dishonesty as Gunny.

13 September 6, 2008 - 6:58pm | happydays

Everyone has opinions but the Facts of Troopergate are needed

Reading all the input from the many posters show valid points on all sides of this issue. The one point that sometimes gets lost while folks are concentrating on their issue is that the facts of troopergate which is really the question of abuse of power need to come out - the rumors need to end. While French said some things that shouldn't have been said, he is only the coordinator and not the investigator (thank goodness.) While I was shocked at his quotes, the posters who are upset about him saying impeachment have quoted him out of context. As I understand it, he said impeachment only in stating the range of possibilities of an outcome. At the same time I believe he stated there could be no abuse of power found, as well.

September 6, 2008 - 7:52pm | rfn

The "unfortunate" remarks were not the starting point

for suspicions that the "investigation" might be less than fair and considerably less than impartial.

The beginning came when it was announced, here in The ADN, that Mr. French had known Mr. Branchflower for some time and it might be unlikely that French could be unaware that a family member had, at one time, worked for Monegan.

This does not rule out an impartial investigation but it does raise questions.

The proper thing might have been to change investigators; perhaps someone from out of state. Alaska is a small place politically and it's pretty tough to find someone who is not somehow linked to anyone else. Perhaps two or three times removed but still linked.

It was when the above, coupled with some very early unfortunate statements, made it plain that anybody asked to testify needs to be represented by competent counsel.

Since then the slide downhill has accelerated. There are tall, stout trees ahead!

September 7, 2008 - 11:42am | happydays

Let's just get to the bottom of this and stop the rumors

It seems that no matter who a person supports, there is reason to not want the investigation and follow on report to be out there. Why is that?

Why don't we as Alaskans want to know what really happened with all this mess? Why are we wanting the swirling to continue?

Why don't we as Americans want to know what type of integrity our potential VP has? She welcomed the investigation, she told us to hold her accountable. The only way to keep that intact is to complete the investigation, report the findings and get the truth out there.

Anything less than that questions what really happened.

12 September 6, 2008 - 9:22am | ak_iceman2003

Coghill has backing from McCain camp

Coghill has backing from McCain camp:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/157439/page/1

11 September 6, 2008 - 9:15am | TheSdog

Gunny French

is a partisan hack and his statements have been political hyperbole. It is inappropriate and it does raise questions.

Coghill is also a political hack who is searching for reasons to try and deflect away from whether The Palin and her administration abused their power.

No amount of spin will change the fact that our governor abuses power to settle personal vendettas.

September 6, 2008 - 3:03pm | rfn

Is it not Mr. French

who, together with Mr. Gara, is advancing the case for acceptance of Medicare patients by all Alaska physicians as a condition of licensing?

That matter alone requires near full attention to overcome what surely must be strongly organized opposition. It's another reason why he should step down from working on the "investigation" to as to become more tightly focused on the growing problem of Medicare members access to health care.

September 6, 2008 - 1:07pm | akwillis

Palin so expertly exploits the images you describe.....

As long as our State Constitution sustains a legislature based on secrecy,seniority, and the ability to purchase and sell political influence so easily, Hollis French and John Coghill, each with very little ability to debate issues in an open forum, will be able to function as effective legislators - and they will be re-elected to office.
Palin gave and gives the image (and perhaps the image only) of an alternative to the world of French and Coghill. As I said in another post, she is so attractive to Alaskans and the National Party because she appears to be the only Rose in a bed of fertilizer.

September 6, 2008 - 9:37am | Cartman3_15

I didn't realize the investigation was over.

What a pitiful two-bit propagandist you are, Dog. I'd suggest checking the definition of "fact", but I know you don't care that you are misusing it to further your personal agenda.

September 6, 2008 - 9:52am | TheSdog

What personal agenda?

It is a fact. We know Frank Baily put pressure on. That is not in dispute.

I suppose we do not know if Palin knew or not. so, that may be overstated a bit.

So, she is either unaware of what is going on in heradministration or abused or power. One of the two is a fact so take your choice.

September 6, 2008 - 5:27pm | lom

you 2

are a couple of characters. Either of you read Wooten's record? First, 5 days on the beach is a big deal in his career field. Second, IF his published record is true (and he's not denying it) he should have been fired, and the Palins and Heaths have every right to question that decision.

There is no question he is a problem employee who should not represent AST. Why he wasn't fired should be the center of your discussion.

Monegan is very personable, but the record will show he did not accomplish the tasks he was appointed for. If the mishandling of the Wooten case was the straw that broke the camel's back--so be it.

Bottom line: Monegan was an "at will" employee and has no recourse. The Governor acted appropriately.

September 6, 2008 - 6:06pm | TheSdog

Wooten

should not be a state tooper. So what?

There are plenty of people working at all kinds of jobs that should not be there. There are plenty of people who have been protected by unions. There are plenty who have been protected by connections.

Have you ever been in a command position?

It is extremely important to avoid even the perception of bias or favortism.

The Palin-Heath Clan have a right to question the decision. The Palin does not have a right to use her power in a position of authority to exert undue influence.

Bailey's phone call specifically mentions Todd and Sarah by name. The few emails that have leaked out show Sarah had a pattern of bringing Wooten up at every possible opportunity.

There are reasons why these protections exist. What if Wooten was not a bad trooper and the pressure was placed? It is not the case but you begin to understand the problem if you look from that perspective.

I once had a General's wife demand that I give her a handicap sticker even though she did not need it. She got huffy and filed complaints and even got her husband involved. Now, it turned out okay but that is not always the case in these issues. The protections are there for a reason.

There are other issues here as well. The Palin participating in filing complaints 2 years after the fact just because now her sister is getting divorced? The large number of unsubstantiated complaints?

Monegan being fired may not be the ultimate issue here. The issue is did the Palin or her staff or her husband exert influence thereby abusing power.

Decisions get made all the time that people disagree with. If you or I have a relative who is a state trooper we can challenge decisions but we do not have power over the people we are talking to. A leader needs to be able to recognize this and separate themselves. The Palin at least appears to have violated that principle.

The end cannot justify the means and your argument is trying to make that the case.

September 6, 2008 - 6:31pm | lom

I actually agree the ends do not justify the means--I disagree with you on the meaning of "undue influence" but concede neither of us have a full set of facts.

September 6, 2008 - 6:36pm | TheSdog

September 6, 2008 - 6:38pm | lom

Huh?

since when did a piece of paper have a face? ,,,"screw you guys I'm go'in home...."

September 6, 2008 - 10:14am | Cartman3_15

More spin.

It is a FACT that Bailey called trooper Dial. It is not a fact about pressure being applied. This is interpretive, subjective. Big difference.

Monegan is on record as saying he did not feel pressured to fire Wooten. He is also on record saying no one ever told him to fire Wooten.

These are FACTS, Dog. The rest is more wishful thinking on your part.

It is not surprising, given your inability to separate fact from opinion, that you did not have a successful career in journalism.

September 6, 2008 - 10:24am | TheSdog

cartman

We have all heard the phone call. Your hero even put him on administrative leave after it came out. She knows there is a problem even if you as a Palin Posse minion refuse to see it.

It is a FACT pressure was applied.

Watch Monegan's CNBC interview. He tried to play it close to the vest and not get embroiled in the whole mess. He was still trying to be the "good soldier." The problem is when The Palin started denying everything his conscience caught up with him.

And whatexactly is in some of those e-mails that your "open and transparent" hero is trying to hide?

Cartman, you will do anything you can to defend Palin and that is a FACT.

September 6, 2008 - 10:52am | Cartman3_15

Again, Dog

I encourage you to look up the definition of "fact". Until you do, I have no interest in another round of your patented dishonest debating, where you change the terms to fit your side of the argument.

I notice you continue to ignore the FACT that Monegan said he never felt pressured. Pretty much sums up what you're all about.

You'll do anything, no matter how dishonest, to make Palin look bad. You cut the liar Monegan all kinds of slack at the same time you're jumping to unproven conclusions about Palin.

Again, that pretty much sums up what you're all about.

Now please, come back at me with more personal attacks that ignore the real FACTS of this issue. Spin, spin, spin!! It's what you do best.

September 6, 2008 - 11:28am | TheSdog

Cartman

“Gov. Palin's husband, Todd Palin, met with Monegan [the fired state police chief] in January 2007, a month after his wife took office, to say that the trooper was unfit for the force. Monegan also said the governor sent him e-mails, but Monegan declined to disclose them, saying he planned to give them to the independent prosecutor.

Monegan has repeatedly said Wooten was mentioned to him although the words "fire him" were never used. You are the one always complaining about weasel language and yet are so fast to let the Palin snakes slither away here.

And you say you are not a Posse hack?

I guess the lie Palin told that no one in her admistration talked to DPS about Wooten was okay.

I guess it was okay that they invaded a state employee's privacy by looking at a file inappropriately was okay as well?

What was your position on the Patriot act again?

Keep goin cartman because the more you flail away the more the blog tourists get an idea of exactly what kind of silly people circle the wagons around The Palin.

I could provide links all day by the way but perhaps you should actually go learn something. I suppose if you had links you might actually provide one here or there instaed of just launching into a litany of ad hominen attacks.

Do us all a favor. If you are going to continue to fire off attacks at least get clever or develop a sense of humor. I want to be able to laugh with you and not just at you.

September 6, 2008 - 11:37am | Cartman3_15

Keep defending the liar

As long as you continue to ignore Monegan's stake in this, you cannot be taken seriously.

If Palin lied, appropriate action should be taken. If personnel records were inappropriately accessed, that should be addressed and punished. Are we clear? I don't hear anyone white-washing any alleged crimes, especially me.

Now, Dog, if you can (and I'm betting you can't), tell me why anyone should take Monegan's word for anything. At different times, he has said: 1- he was not pressured; 2- he was pressured.

The bottom line is this -- he lied at least once. And yet you give him a free pass because it suits your irrational grievance against Palin. This is why you continue to be the blog version of the court jester.

September 6, 2008 - 12:06pm | TheSdog

Cartman

Whether Monegan is a self serving squirrel is not really relevant. My general feeling about him is that he has always been a weasel. In fact, I said as much on this blog when Palin appointed him.

Do I think Monegan smells his 15 minutes of fame? Absolutely, just like every person who left the Bush and Clinton White Houses and wrote a book. I guarantee you Monegan is thinking book.

He gets no free pass from me but he also is no less trustworthy than palin on the issue.

It should be obvious to you Palin has similar issues as well. She was for an investigation before she was against. She said nobody in her staff had contacted DPS about Wooten before she held a news conference to say differently.

This whole case is full of people shifting. That includes Palin as well as members of her staff. Some of those e-mails are out there and they will eventually come out.

Palin lied at least once and you really are giving her a free pass.

Keep going cartman, the blog tourists need to understand the true blind nature of a Palin Posse member.

September 6, 2008 - 1:13pm | Cartman3_15

Pay attention. Please.

From my previous post, which you obvious were incapable of comprehending:

"If Palin lied, appropriate action should be taken. If personnel records were inappropriately accessed, that should be addressed and punished. Are we clear? I don't hear anyone white-washing any alleged crimes, especially me."

This is not giving Palin a "free pass." A free pass would be ignoring, repeatedly, anything that doesn't fit my argument. You know, sort of like you done in this thread with Monegan.

September 6, 2008 - 1:55pm | TheSdog

cartman

We already know she lied. That is a fact. We know Frank Bailey interefered. It is still false and a lie even if she did not know.

We also know Todd Palin interfered and although not a "staff member" it stinks just as bad.

These are facts.

So, by your own admission just now, action should be taken against Palin. You can know that without the investigation.

So, what action will you take now confronted with a fact?

Oh, you will not take action, so you are giving her a free pass.

September 6, 2008 - 2:12pm | Cartman3_15

More deflection

Nice work, dog.

It's a lie even if she didn't know? That's a good one. Well if that's the case, then absolutely it's a fact that she lied.

Reasonable people, on the other hand, know just how laughable that contention is. Right after you look up "fact" please check on "lie", too. Of course, if you did that, you'd have to resort to honest debating.

You know the funniest thing about listening to you Dog? You're so wrapped around the axle with wanting something to stick to Palin that you're willing to make stuff up even when there's plenty of red meat on the table.

The only free pass here is the one you continue giving to Monegan. You won't even acknowledge him. Don't you think that's just a wee bit pathetic, Dog, that you're incapable of doing even that? What kind of weak-minded, insecure individual could ignore such obvious reality?

Keep posting. That way the out-of-town bloggers will see just how blinded by irrationality the haters are.

September 6, 2008 - 2:47pm | TheSdog

Let's see

Monegan is questioned in my post and posts for the last year and somehow I am giving him a free pass.

You ignore the fact The Palin lied. There is no way around it. and yet you refuse to hold her accountable for anything.

You are right, there is plenty of things on the table about Palin. And every time someone presents them you are there to try and shoot the messenger.

And again, show me where anybody says they hate The Palin. It appears in your irrational rage you have learned well how to lie as well from your master.

It will be interesting what else pops up in the emails beyond what we already know:

It was a joke, the whole long 'investigation' of him," says the e-mail, sent giving Monegan permission to speak before a bill being heard by the Legislature. "This is the same trooper who's out there today telling people the new administration is going to destroy the trooper organization, and that he'd 'never work for that b '," Palin'.)"
.

In cartman's world it must be okay for a governor to use hearsay andrumor when communicating with someone if you are settling a vendetta. But she "never" talked to Monegan about him, right?

September 6, 2008 - 3:14pm | Cartman3_15

If Palin lied, she should

pay the piper. If wrongdoing was done, by anyone, it should be corrected and punished.

Please tell us all how this is this avoiding accountability? In the meantime, I'll add "accountability" to the growing list of words you clearly have no real understanding of.

The rest of your post is typical Dog garbage -- putting words in my mouth and making up stuff, then criticizing me for it. Classic.

You're lucky the ADN doesn't have a policy against dishonesty. Your posts would never see the light of day.

September 6, 2008 - 3:16pm | TheSdog

Your surrender

is accepted.

September 6, 2008 - 3:37pm | Cartman3_15

Your dishonesty

knows no bounds.

You're probably the only one present who doesn't see that. It's a little sad. But it's also really, really funny.

10 September 6, 2008 - 12:56am | black33

Put Coghill in charge

He's unbiased- only taking orders and getting his drafts from the McSame campaign.

I wonder why he didn't criticize the state-paid lawyer for co-governor Sarah who "interviewed a couple witnesses- including a known liar who goes by the name of Frank "I never called anyone" "ok I did, but Sarah never told me specifically what to say at 2;32 PM on the day I called" Bailey.

As long as the investigator is operating in an unbiased ethical manner it makes no difference what the politicians say.

The truth will come out.

ps What's the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull?

The pitbull does not run away and hide.

September 7, 2008 - 11:44am | happydays

Good Post

John Coghill has proven, again, he follows orders.

9 September 5, 2008 - 7:25pm | roadwarrior1984

Thank You Rep. Coghill

The comments on ABC News by Sen. French definitely would lead a person to believe the outcome of the investigation has already been determined. It's nice to know there is an honest legislator who is working to ensure that this investigation is fair. Thank you Rep. John Coghill.

8 September 5, 2008 - 6:23pm | rfn

There are those who are hoping

a potentially biased "investigation" will result in Governor Palin being removed.

There are those who are praying (mightily) for a Palin win AND a Parnell victory now and in November.

All this emotion while "jonesing" for a special election in which the same-old-same-old would get to re-enact their old battles.

At the moment it's not looking good for them. The late ballot count in the Young-Parnell primary is drawing to a close and there are still 129 votes favoring Mr. Young. Should he win the primary, well, the old guard's chances for a special election fall like rocks along the Seward Highway.

Better brace for it!

7 September 5, 2008 - 3:29pm | dab

Way to Go REP. Coghill

Hollis held up the abortion bill--And now he wants to hold the State hostage so he can run for Gov--You guys need to go to bat for the over 80% who still support SARAH. These guys need to go home.

September 5, 2008 - 3:31pm | katie_doe

Law be damned.

I guess you think Sarah Palin doesn't have to follow the law like the rest of us.

September 5, 2008 - 7:10pm | akartisan

Which law?

The legislature is protected from ethics charges and hearings during a campaign. Statute and regulation prohibit it. If an ethics violation is charged, it goes nowhere until AFTER the election is done.

So our Legislature is due this special protection and Governor Palin is not?

I don't think so. The law protects her from this. As well, firing a commissioner is fully within her power.

September 5, 2008 - 7:21pm | katie_doe

Hot dang!

You should shoot off an email to those 12 members that voted to investigate her then! Hurry, quick!

September 6, 2008 - 12:41am | akartisan

Hollis Has Already Admitted His Error

The news showed an interview of Hollis French admitting he "probably made a few mistakes this week".

I can totally understand. Everybody in government services or the media are swamped right now with pressure from outside entities seeking information.

Mr. French's response is what matters now. Does he step out of the way?

September 5, 2008 - 7:56pm | rfn

As inconvenient as it might be,

there was no election campaign in progress at the time.

But there will be when those who conspire to fix an investigation are impeached or recalled. It's wrong to think that Apathy is eternal!

September 5, 2008 - 8:21pm | katie_doe

That's a pretty strong accusation, there, rfn!

Can you back it up? As in, proof?

September 5, 2008 - 8:23pm | rfn

Simply check the dates.

There was no election campaign in progress at the time of the vote. At least none involving Ms. Palin.

As to the rest, note that "conspire" is not in the past-tense. We shall see. We shall see.

6 September 5, 2008 - 2:06pm | Stags_Leap

Hollis French speaks the truth

if there is nothing damaging -why are seven people refusing to give a deposition -which then requires the Senate to issue subpoena's?

How about Sarah Palin and her people coming clean for once and testifying truthfully?

The committee involved here is a bi-partisan panel of folks -that unanimously voted for the investigation.

Palin's tacticts are getting old. Blame the media, but use the meda. Blame Hollis French, but use Hollis French. How about telling the truth for god's sake -instead of attackijng French?

What does Palin have to hide?

September 5, 2008 - 2:13pm | rfn

When it becomes impossible

to pretend that a proceeding is other than irreparably biased then it becomes imprudent....no, downright stupid....to play along. The committee may be bi-partisan but leadership has been delegated to one who has made statements damaging to the pretense of impartiality.

It's over as far as any serious person believing that what's in progress is other than a witch-hunt with a predetermined outcome.

Truth must be told but only in a fair and honest setting. Which, for the moment, does not appear to exist.

What does Mr. French have to hide? Who is guiding his hand?

Will it emerge that advice is coming from out-of-state political interests with a Begich/Berkowitz-Pelosi agenda? How will this further upset their respective applecarts? Talk about your "Hail Mary play"!

September 7, 2008 - 10:08am | MeganLarson

Absolutely

You hit it on the head, rfn, as usual. Bravo! :)

Palin was cooperating fully with this investigation until it became clear that the opposition had other motivations (you know, outside of discovering the truth). Hence, the hiring of the lawyer for her own protection.

Just because someone "lawyers up" does not mean they have something to hide. Haven't you guys ever seen "My Cousin Vinny"?? :)

Besides, when the charges are serious it makes perfect sense to hire someone who knows the laws and can help you navigate the legal maze. I would question Palin's judgement if at this point with all that has happened she had NOT retained a lawyer.

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;الاكسسوارات
، العطور ،
تسريحات ،
مكياج ، عناية
البشرة ، عناية الشعر.
عروس ، لانجري
، منتجات البشرة ،
تجميل ، وظائف
نسائية ، الحمل ، ولادة
، صحة الطفل
ازياء الطفل ،
الاشغال اليدويه ،
أطباق ، معجنات
، مقبلات ،
حلويات ، مشروبات
الحمية
الرشاقة ،
وصفات للرجيم ،
وصفات الرشاقة ، رجيم
، تمارين رياضية ،
رشاقة
: مواقع دردشة : : شبكة حبي
:
منتدى الحياة الزوجية : شات المها
:الحب
:شات الحب :دردشة الحب
:
شات الود :
كرسي الاعتراف:
منتديات حبي
: مواقع جنسيه : الحب الرومانسيه

:شات الحب
: حبي: موقع دردشة:
شات سنوات الضياع:
شات الحب : منتديات دار العرب:
صور جنسية: منتدى الحب
:منتديات الحب
: الحياة الزوجية :
قصص جنسية: منتديات يا ناس:
مواقع الجنس :
افلام جنس :
:
قسم الحلويات
: مواقع جنسية:
:قصص جنس
: قصص جنسي:موقع جنس
: :قصص جنسيه: :معلايه جديد:
جنس :قصص جنسيه:
منتديات ماجدة:مواقع افلام
: موقع دردشة: دليل مواقع: دليل حبي
:دليل: اقوى شات: افلام جنسية
: افلام جنس : مجله روتانا
:صور جنسيه::كاسبر انتي فايروس 2009:
منتدى الشات :الديكور
شات خليجي: وسع صدرك:
انت حبي : زخارف الشات
:برامج الشات :المنتدى العام :
نجوم الطرب:مع حبي:
مع حبي:مسابقه دقه الملاحظه:
همس القوافي: عذب الكلام
: القصص والروايات-السياحه-السفر
-اناشيد اسلاميه:صور حب:
صور :
موقع جنسي:
الصور :
صور الفنانين والفنانات: صور الفنانين:صور الفنانات
:قصص -
اشهى الماكولات -الرياضه
-السيارات-
-روح الروح عبدالمجيد عبدالله -صحفي عراقي يحذف ويرشق بوش بحذائه ويصفه بالكلب
افلام عربيه:افلام
-افلام اجنبيه
:مقاطع بلوتوث::تسريحات شعر 2009
مسابقات : منتديات تعب قلبي
:كلام نواعم :مسابقات
: شات حبي الصوتيه:صور الفنانة التركية لميس
-الذات- -
رسائل نصيه:رسائل وسائط :
ثيمات :برامج الجوال:

جلسة شباب: شباب;
شات كتابي سعودي : توبيكات:الطب:
الصحه:
جافا الشات -توبيكات
ملونه
-برامج-
الكمبيوتر-السياسه -الاخبار-

تصميم; : اقوى دردشة : ماسنجر
: sitemap -قصص: قصص محارم: اهات روحي: شات عاتبوها
منتدى بناتي :منتدى بناتي
مكياج:فهد
العثمان
:منتديات حبي للمواضيع الساخنه
: الماسنجر:
msn
: منتدى الشات:الشات:
دردشة سكس: الود
اجمل التوبيكات
: نوال الكويتيه 2009:حواء
:
شات-
تحميل صور تحميل فلاش تحميل بلوتوث-
برامج-
دردشة خليجية-
مجوهرات-
مجوهرات-
مكياج وتجميل-
عالم المراه-
تسلية وترفيه-
المنتديات العامه-
الاخبار - الصحافه-
دردشة كتابية-
ادم-
خريطه الموقع :chat :sitemap :
صور مسلسل لا ماكن لا وطن :
صور jojo صور جوجو:
يوتيوب :youtube :يوتيوب :you tube :
الحلقه الاخيره من مسلسل دموع الورد:
لعبه ضرب بوش بالحذاء :
كاسبر 2009:
مكياج :
شنط

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