August 27, 2008 - 3:02pm | rfn

Hey!

People eat those fish!

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  August 27, 2008 - 6:50pm | pmjusa

Yes,

if they only knew...

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  August 23, 2008 - 1:29am | CingRed

Mining pays!

The mining industry will never get away with the loose employment laws like the fishing industry does. Benefits will include Workers' Compensation Insurance, State Unemployment, medical, dental, and employer sponsored retirement plans. Employment will be year round and training will be paid for and offered by the employer. That's atypical to say the least in the fishing industry.

Slave labor was the fish processors that operated in Bristol Bay who brought in Asians by the droves. They worked long and tedious hours for little pay, eventually the industrial age hit the region and they replaced them with what they called 'iron chinks' (a mechanical cannery).

Just like yesteryear, the industry today is run overwhelmingly by foreigners who run their business from their home office out of State. Typically they do not understand our laws and regulations and their HR office is run poorly. They bring in undocumented workers, work long unsafe hours, frequently have working minor violations, and do not apply overtime correctly to Alaska Statutes and what not, it's an all too common occurrence. Did you know Alaskan fisherman even have an exemption to our State minimum wage laws. Can you imagine paying employees less than $7.15 a hour? Ouch! Below minimum wage folks.

To extend AD&D benefits for South Africa miners is fantastic. Not very many Americans are extended that benefit, and it would be a rare duck to be extended to a fisherman. However, if it were, I'm sure the expense would be astronomical due to the risk of the fishing industry and lifestyle.

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  August 23, 2008 - 2:07am | Sockeyemark

Sounds great, you could work at Red Dog take your vacation

time and have a bristol bay boat and permit for 4 weeks. You'd have it made, and by the way you'd be supporting ballot measure 4. best of both worlds...you can work for THE MAN part of the year and YOU CAN BE THE MAN for a month. Right on Ms Red

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  August 23, 2008 - 9:18pm | rfn

Unlikely

if The Great Alaska Mining Shutdown were approved.

Red Dog might be open a little longer but, once they needed new permits, it's soon be over.

Of course that wouldn't concern anyone who gets their primary paycheck from the obscene profits of the oil companies and moonlights at fishing when it's convenient.

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  August 22, 2008 - 12:21am | PuckFebble

Your right...

more like blood labor. If thier priority in Africa is safety, and they are having this much success, how can we give them the benefit of the doubt they ask for with thier fish come first claims.

http://www.thetimes.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=826500

FIVE miners have died in the past week, prompting unions to ask if April’s safety summit organised by Anglo American, and similar talk shops, have yielded any results.

Two workers died at Anglo Platinum’s Mogalakwena and Amandelbult mines, one at Simmer & Jack’s Buffelsfontein Mine in North West, and the other two at AngloGold’s Mponeng and Tau Tona mines.

Lesiba Seshoka, National Union of Mineworkers spokesman, said: “We take a dim view of the situation and it is very disappointing that this happens at a time when mining companies are arguing for leniency on penalties.”

The union is requesting strict penalties on non-safety compliance in mines.

“NUM is reiterating its position that the minimum penalty should be R1-million and the maximum should be 10percent of their annual returns,” he said.

Simon Tebele, spokesman for Anglo Platinum said: “After the accidents, blasting and drilling was stopped from 3pm on Saturday until 6pm on Sunday. “We have a safety-first approach and it has to be understood that this is an accident.”

Since January this year, there have been 11 fatalities in Anglo Platinum and they had 25 deaths in 2007.

Frans Baleni, NUM general secretary said: “We will continue to mobilise our members to put pressure on management with regard to safety.

‘‘We will also attend the September mine-safety summit to look at the results of the presidential safety audits.”

He also noted that South Africa needs tougher legislation and that employers should be held responsible for negligence.

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  August 21, 2008 - 9:11pm | jokeener

As if

fishermen never die while killing fish.

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  August 22, 2008 - 12:14am | PuckFebble

Tough to defend...

isnt it? Anglo is the dirtiest mining conglomerate out there, and has been for the last 90 years. Why we would believe the promises of these foreign corporations for pennies on the dollar is beyond me. Its a shame we havent learned our lessons from past failures.

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  August 22, 2008 - 6:08am | Victor67

Yes on fish...Yes on mining...NO on 4

It is a fact that the world will continue to use metals. It is countrys like S.A and China that will be doing the mining while we sit on our hands.
Not developing minerals under our current rigid environmental permitting process in Alaska and the rest of the U.S.A. is really short sited and devastating when considering the alternatives of supplying minerals that the entire planet uses and demands.
Labor laws are, without doubt, better in the U.S.A. as well.
NO ON 4

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  August 21, 2008 - 2:54pm | ebluemink

huh?

I posted about Palin's statement 20 minutes or so before I put this one up.

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  August 22, 2008 - 6:11am | Victor67

Garbage and more garbage

More garbage...Just like BM 4.
No on 4

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  August 21, 2008 - 2:08pm | jcn7vc

Who?

Do you mean Robert Frost?

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  August 21, 2008 - 5:57pm | Sockeyemark

Yes I did, you must like poetry yourself

Great poem, it's about all we have left after the Gov started stumping for you guys,,,,,and that's about all we'll have left after Pebble starts digging. Hard enough battling the miners now we have to battle the branches of our own Government and the Gov.....

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  August 22, 2008 - 8:53pm | njalo99

.....

Break the Rock, Haul the Rock, Crush the Rock....Spend the Rock..... yup a miner's life is pretty hard......

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  August 21, 2008 - 2:23pm | BD

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