So what are your commuter battle tales? Tell us what the Glenn Highway has taught you. Or the lessons of any other commuter route, for that matter. Horror stories, good Samaritan tales, words of wisdom, gripes, tips - we’ll take it all.
We make the commute daily from the Valley to Anchorage. It is amazing how people who need to exit for Eagle River will stay in the left lane the entire way and then at the last minute, cut right over into the left lane to exit. Get a clue....get in the right lane BEFORE you get to your exit. Good lord, use some common sense Eagle Rivian people.
It seems the drivers this winter are the worst I have seen in quite a while. Forget your "macho" or "cowgirl" image while on the road. The BEST drivers adapt their speed to the road conditions, weather and traffic pattern. It doesn't make you a better driver because you are a fool and do 70mph on ice and tailgate. More and more I see cars tailgating cars in the "right" lane. Enough already!! Stop doing your makeup in the car and fixing your hair, stop talking on the cell phone and fumbeling in the seat and thinking "it's all about you" cause it's not. When you slam into that car in front of you that you are right on their bumper,hmmmm LIKE BIG LAWSUITS? Slow down, use common sense. I love pick up trucks but the drivers of them are aggressive people with definite ego problems when they drive like they do on the Glenn! Slow down!
What will it take for the state this highway a safety corridor? More human fatalitites? Never mind the moose... Mile 14-15 through Eagle River isn't even lighted. Police are too busy responding to vehicles in the ditches to catch the impatient speed deamons. Photo radar would be a great deterent, but many don't even clean mud and snow from their license plates or snow off their roofs.
Lowering the speed limit to 55 during winter months would save time on many days. There would be less emergency vehicles responding, fewer accidents and traffic jams, rubber-neckers, guardrail repair vehicles blocking lanes and smoother traffic flow. Installing another guard shack for entrance and exit to Ft. Rich near the Hiland exit on the landfill side would allow access to the Davis Hwy. and many base commuters could get off the highway there. Many military residents from Eagle River and beyond wouldn't have to use the Glenn all the way in or out of bases. Additionally, passing on the right of a vehicle should not be legal - it is very dangerous.
Driver's education should be offered in schools too.
Look, every one wants to be safe and some are better drivers than others. but please is you can drive in the right lane when you can. Weird thing is leaving 15 minutes earlier gets you to Anchorage sooner most days and the "Class" of drivers are nicer too!
Please, please folks, realize you are not the only motorist on the highway. If your vehicle condition, your eyesight, or your emotions dictate that you drive slower than the flow of traffic, please move over to the right lane. That lane is your refuge if you are intimidated by the rest of the traffic. Believe it or not, the 'fast' lane (or 'passing' lane) is just that. Please don't constipate traffic, good weather or bad, by poking along in the left lane. You make driving more treacherous for everyone. If you feel traffic is too fast, maybe you are right, but it is not your job to play trooper and hold back faster cars. In some places, impeding traffic in the fast lane results in traffic citations for the careless (yes, it is careless, or oblivious) driver. (Wish we did that here.)
Also, why do so many people automatically jam on the brakes when northbound coming over the crest of Eagle River hill? It's not like the hill suddenly materialized out of flat ground. It's been there for thousands of years.
Folks, speed is only ONE of the factors in crashes. Arbitrary braking and poking along in the fast lane is just as bad, because it can create chaos for the thousands of vehicles behind the erratic driver.
Please think about the vehicles around you. What are you doing to all those drivers behind you?
So are you saying that troopers or APD that cruise at 70mph in the fast lane are "constipating??" and or making driving treacherous for everyone?
I know that a fast driver like you likes to cruise at 75 or 80...should the troopers move over for you?
I think he was saying that people like "you" who drive in the fast lane at 55MPH with the right lane open are the problem. Citizen troopers setting the "safe" speed limit.
I see plenty of ditch divers on Minnesota. I never see speedtraps set by APD in the winter like they do in the summer. I guess it does not produce enough revenue for Begich to actually have a presence when the accidents happen.
Just one more reason the mayor's rhetoric about public safety is nonsense.
I drive the haul road, I KNOW how to drive on the ice. I know when folks hit the posted speed limit, they'll probably hit the post, as well. I drive 45-55, depending on conditions. Just the other day I avoided a semi and pickup collision at the weigh station, and counted morning road kill the rest of the way to Anchorage. People, SLOW DOWN. Some of us drive ice roads or the haul road as part of our jobs - we KNOW speed is only a recipe for disaster. Get up 15 minutes earlier, plan on going 15 miles an hour slower, and use your brains not your gas pedal to get you to work safely. I drive a big pickup so I have the edge on you - I can see you better, I'm higher and feel safer and, despite my size, I drive more slowly because I know the consequences of winter and speed. I shake my head in amazement as you speed past me and then shake my head again when I pass you in the ditch. You speed, you lose. Get a clue.
Where are Alaska drivers going that is so important that their lives, vehicles and insurance premiums don't matter anymore? Leave for your destination early, do not speed or tailgate and arrive alive without the out-of-pocket expense of getting towed or vehicle repairs. Studded tires help immensely but a little common sense goes a lot further. Example: Two vehicles are traveling down a snowy Alaskan road. Vehicle A is a two wheel drive sedan. Vehicle B is a 4x4 SUV/Pickup (your choice). Now both are traveling 70mph and must brake and come to an abrupt stop. What happens? Well, both vehicles end up in an accident or the ditch. But why both? The 4x4 should have stopped on a dime right? NO!!! Because regardless of what Alaskan 4x4 drivers may believe, their vehicle is 4 wheel drive, NOT 4 wheel stop. Four wheels sliding on ice gets the same result as two. And stop tailgating. It's not going to get you to your destination any faster. Example: You realize you are late for work. You are driving faster than the flow of traffic down the same previously mentioned snowy Alaskan road. This time you are tailgating. Hoping that somehow if you get close enough the person in front of you, they will suddenly decide to make the same irrational driving decision you have and speed. Something happens down the road and the vehicle in front of you stomps on the brakes. CRASH!!! Now, if you thought you were going to be late for work before... get ready to take at least a half day pay cut. Why? Because it's going to take APD around 2 hours to get to your location and write a report. So long as there are no injuries. 2 hours you say? Well yea, because they are out dealing with the other 60 or so people who are driving just like you. So let’s add it up. You are now late for work, costing you money, you might need to be towed, costing you money and the driver you hit WILL report the accident to your insurance company, again costing you money. Don't have insurance? Well that's even better. You'll need to take time off of work to see a judge, costing you more money. All because you were late for work and thought you could make it by drafting like a NASCAR driver. Well... at least you have an excuse for being late I suppose. The bottom line is we all SHARE the road. You do not OWN the road. Use common sense Alaska, and in the end, you will save time, money and possibly your life.
Dr. Jeckall climbs in his ford pickup and leaves his home in the valley with a cup of coffee and a sleepy calm smile. He gets into the Palmer race flats and Mr. Hyde starts to creep into his brain. His truck speed increases and his smile turns into a scornful, jeering, taunting, disrespectful madman!
What happened? Caught up in danger and speed? Adrenaline/caffiene kicking in? We cant change personalities, but we can change laws!
My idea is to make the speed limit a 55mph safety zone for the entire glenn highway commuting distance.
I drive into Anchorage from Peters Creek nearly every day. I imagine some folks passing me at eighty mph or more might get into town a few seconds before I do.
One winter morning just past Eagle River this fellow in a big yellow pick up blew past me like I was parked.
Twenty minutes later when I braked to a stop at Bragaw, he was in the fast lane to my left. When the light turned green, I drove past watching him tailgate a small sedan creeping along.
I saw him again a few minutes later turning into the downtown post office lot.
This time I WAS parked. In the post office lot.
Leaving anchorage on a warm wintery evening and heading to the valley can be like piloting a spacecraft into the black hole. Lights on the highway are no longer once you get passed the first eagle river exit.
Your first encounter with darkness and dirty snow is a gasp as you pirk up your driving skills. a big ford f350 screams by you and you say how in the hell can that guy see where he is going. your headlights are getting dimmer as the highway turns into dirty mud bath with no direction or boundry. your life depends on your windshield fluid. run out of fluid...run off the road.
we need highway lights all the way to the valley. not big fancy ones. just enough to see the road.
I live in Settler's Bay (Mile #8 Knick Goose Bay Rd,outside Wasilla). I drive to Elmendorf AFB everyday in a VW Jetta, and have never went off into the ditch. Valley commuters drive like maniacs, driving 70 MPH on Ice, riding bumpers of cars ahead of them. I feel like Jeff Gordon in the Daytona 500. The bigger the vehicle (4x4 trucks and SUV's) the worse it gets, they think they are invincible and end up in the ditch. The state needs to get the bridge put in to help alleviate the traffic situation. Two years of this commute is enough for me, I am heading back to Anchorage, where the Road situation is not much better.
I hate when those double semi-trucks with all that rubber and metal on a snowy highway are kicking up a 70 mph hurricane of fresh powder. They get in the glenn highway passing lane and thunder by cars only to leave behind a blizzard of white that leaves their passing motorists totally blind. I picture a smile of revenge on those truckers faces. A smile of sacrilegious humor. Slow down my big friend, Kids, grandmas and innocent people are in those little cars that you are scaring.
i hate it when those semi trucks have flat tire and they peel off big chunk of rubber on the road and we have to dodge that and some time have to change lanes to avoid accidents do to this they need to pull over and pick up there pieces of tires that they leave on the road.and i think they need to stay in one lane instead of always changeing lanes
especially on real rainy days and when it really bad out side there are some really mean trucker out there.and i always get a kick out of those muncho 4 wheeler that go so fast on real bad days and later see them in the ditch few hundered yard down the road.that really make my day.
Ok, its taught me that guys that drive these big dodge trucks must have size issues, they tailgate, always want to be in front and are generally on the cell phone, but the most hilarious thing is, when they get to their destination and hop out of that big bad truck, they're usually short little fellas w/ balding heads!
Now I remember why I left Alaska 22 years ago! Thanks for jogging my memory, sockeye. Apparently those Alaskan fellows are STILL overestimating the size of their, ah, 'possessions'. Down here in the Lower 48, it's more car-to-car combat (too many cars, not enough pavement) than whiteouts and "I'm king-of-the-road"itis. It's a jungle out there on the Glenn Highway. Good luck.
So you're saying that 22 years ago when the Glenn was a one lane hwy. it was just as bad lol. Have driven in Philadelphia, they have some nutty drivers there also. So just curious what lower 48 state did you move to. I love the New England states..have family there, but their taxes are out of this world.
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flag this »14 January 28, 2007 - 3:40pm | alaskapat528
Eagle River Drivers.....
We make the commute daily from the Valley to Anchorage. It is amazing how people who need to exit for Eagle River will stay in the left lane the entire way and then at the last minute, cut right over into the left lane to exit. Get a clue....get in the right lane BEFORE you get to your exit. Good lord, use some common sense Eagle Rivian people.
flag this »13 January 28, 2007 - 3:14pm | alaskapat528
Glenn Drivers Getting Worse
It seems the drivers this winter are the worst I have seen in quite a while. Forget your "macho" or "cowgirl" image while on the road. The BEST drivers adapt their speed to the road conditions, weather and traffic pattern. It doesn't make you a better driver because you are a fool and do 70mph on ice and tailgate. More and more I see cars tailgating cars in the "right" lane. Enough already!! Stop doing your makeup in the car and fixing your hair, stop talking on the cell phone and fumbeling in the seat and thinking "it's all about you" cause it's not. When you slam into that car in front of you that you are right on their bumper,hmmmm LIKE BIG LAWSUITS? Slow down, use common sense. I love pick up trucks but the drivers of them are aggressive people with definite ego problems when they drive like they do on the Glenn! Slow down!
flag this »12 January 28, 2007 - 2:05pm | edthomas
Glenn Hwy. should be a traffice safety corridor
What will it take for the state this highway a safety corridor? More human fatalitites? Never mind the moose... Mile 14-15 through Eagle River isn't even lighted. Police are too busy responding to vehicles in the ditches to catch the impatient speed deamons. Photo radar would be a great deterent, but many don't even clean mud and snow from their license plates or snow off their roofs.
Lowering the speed limit to 55 during winter months would save time on many days. There would be less emergency vehicles responding, fewer accidents and traffic jams, rubber-neckers, guardrail repair vehicles blocking lanes and smoother traffic flow. Installing another guard shack for entrance and exit to Ft. Rich near the Hiland exit on the landfill side would allow access to the Davis Hwy. and many base commuters could get off the highway there. Many military residents from Eagle River and beyond wouldn't have to use the Glenn all the way in or out of bases. Additionally, passing on the right of a vehicle should not be legal - it is very dangerous.
Driver's education should be offered in schools too.
flag this »11 January 28, 2007 - 12:25pm | teamstormwatch
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Look, every one wants to be safe and some are better drivers than others. but please is you can drive in the right lane when you can. Weird thing is leaving 15 minutes earlier gets you to Anchorage sooner most days and the "Class" of drivers are nicer too!
flag this »10 January 28, 2007 - 11:10am | lharder
You Are Not the Only Driver on the Road
Please, please folks, realize you are not the only motorist on the highway. If your vehicle condition, your eyesight, or your emotions dictate that you drive slower than the flow of traffic, please move over to the right lane. That lane is your refuge if you are intimidated by the rest of the traffic. Believe it or not, the 'fast' lane (or 'passing' lane) is just that. Please don't constipate traffic, good weather or bad, by poking along in the left lane. You make driving more treacherous for everyone. If you feel traffic is too fast, maybe you are right, but it is not your job to play trooper and hold back faster cars. In some places, impeding traffic in the fast lane results in traffic citations for the careless (yes, it is careless, or oblivious) driver. (Wish we did that here.)
Also, why do so many people automatically jam on the brakes when northbound coming over the crest of Eagle River hill? It's not like the hill suddenly materialized out of flat ground. It's been there for thousands of years.
Folks, speed is only ONE of the factors in crashes. Arbitrary braking and poking along in the fast lane is just as bad, because it can create chaos for the thousands of vehicles behind the erratic driver.
Please think about the vehicles around you. What are you doing to all those drivers behind you?
flag this »January 28, 2007 - 11:59am | bpence2
So are you saying that
So are you saying that troopers or APD that cruise at 70mph in the fast lane are "constipating??" and or making driving treacherous for everyone?
I know that a fast driver like you likes to cruise at 75 or 80...should the troopers move over for you?
flag this »January 28, 2007 - 1:31pm | ryanben
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I think he was saying that people like "you" who drive in the fast lane at 55MPH with the right lane open are the problem. Citizen troopers setting the "safe" speed limit.
flag this »9 January 28, 2007 - 11:09am | TheSdog
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I almost never drive the Glenn.
I see plenty of ditch divers on Minnesota. I never see speedtraps set by APD in the winter like they do in the summer. I guess it does not produce enough revenue for Begich to actually have a presence when the accidents happen.
Just one more reason the mayor's rhetoric about public safety is nonsense.
flag this »8 January 28, 2007 - 10:37am | tidelines
oh yes, I'm in the big red Dodge
I drive the haul road, I KNOW how to drive on the ice. I know when folks hit the posted speed limit, they'll probably hit the post, as well. I drive 45-55, depending on conditions. Just the other day I avoided a semi and pickup collision at the weigh station, and counted morning road kill the rest of the way to Anchorage. People, SLOW DOWN. Some of us drive ice roads or the haul road as part of our jobs - we KNOW speed is only a recipe for disaster. Get up 15 minutes earlier, plan on going 15 miles an hour slower, and use your brains not your gas pedal to get you to work safely. I drive a big pickup so I have the edge on you - I can see you better, I'm higher and feel safer and, despite my size, I drive more slowly because I know the consequences of winter and speed. I shake my head in amazement as you speed past me and then shake my head again when I pass you in the ditch. You speed, you lose. Get a clue.
flag this »7 January 28, 2007 - 10:14am | thefreak
The Alaskan driving experience.
Where are Alaska drivers going that is so important that their lives, vehicles and insurance premiums don't matter anymore? Leave for your destination early, do not speed or tailgate and arrive alive without the out-of-pocket expense of getting towed or vehicle repairs. Studded tires help immensely but a little common sense goes a lot further. Example: Two vehicles are traveling down a snowy Alaskan road. Vehicle A is a two wheel drive sedan. Vehicle B is a 4x4 SUV/Pickup (your choice). Now both are traveling 70mph and must brake and come to an abrupt stop. What happens? Well, both vehicles end up in an accident or the ditch. But why both? The 4x4 should have stopped on a dime right? NO!!! Because regardless of what Alaskan 4x4 drivers may believe, their vehicle is 4 wheel drive, NOT 4 wheel stop. Four wheels sliding on ice gets the same result as two. And stop tailgating. It's not going to get you to your destination any faster. Example: You realize you are late for work. You are driving faster than the flow of traffic down the same previously mentioned snowy Alaskan road. This time you are tailgating. Hoping that somehow if you get close enough the person in front of you, they will suddenly decide to make the same irrational driving decision you have and speed. Something happens down the road and the vehicle in front of you stomps on the brakes. CRASH!!! Now, if you thought you were going to be late for work before... get ready to take at least a half day pay cut. Why? Because it's going to take APD around 2 hours to get to your location and write a report. So long as there are no injuries. 2 hours you say? Well yea, because they are out dealing with the other 60 or so people who are driving just like you. So let’s add it up. You are now late for work, costing you money, you might need to be towed, costing you money and the driver you hit WILL report the accident to your insurance company, again costing you money. Don't have insurance? Well that's even better. You'll need to take time off of work to see a judge, costing you more money. All because you were late for work and thought you could make it by drafting like a NASCAR driver. Well... at least you have an excuse for being late I suppose. The bottom line is we all SHARE the road. You do not OWN the road. Use common sense Alaska, and in the end, you will save time, money and possibly your life.
flag this »6 January 28, 2007 - 10:06am | bpence2
Dr. Jeckal/ Mr. Hyde
Dr. Jeckall climbs in his ford pickup and leaves his home in the valley with a cup of coffee and a sleepy calm smile. He gets into the Palmer race flats and Mr. Hyde starts to creep into his brain. His truck speed increases and his smile turns into a scornful, jeering, taunting, disrespectful madman!
What happened? Caught up in danger and speed? Adrenaline/caffiene kicking in? We cant change personalities, but we can change laws!
My idea is to make the speed limit a 55mph safety zone for the entire glenn highway commuting distance.
flag this »5 January 28, 2007 - 9:57am | holmstrom
Hurry up and wait
I drive into Anchorage from Peters Creek nearly every day. I imagine some folks passing me at eighty mph or more might get into town a few seconds before I do.
One winter morning just past Eagle River this fellow in a big yellow pick up blew past me like I was parked.
Twenty minutes later when I braked to a stop at Bragaw, he was in the fast lane to my left. When the light turned green, I drove past watching him tailgate a small sedan creeping along.
I saw him again a few minutes later turning into the downtown post office lot.
This time I WAS parked. In the post office lot.
flag this »4 January 28, 2007 - 9:16am | bpence2
the black hole
Leaving anchorage on a warm wintery evening and heading to the valley can be like piloting a spacecraft into the black hole. Lights on the highway are no longer once you get passed the first eagle river exit.
Your first encounter with darkness and dirty snow is a gasp as you pirk up your driving skills. a big ford f350 screams by you and you say how in the hell can that guy see where he is going. your headlights are getting dimmer as the highway turns into dirty mud bath with no direction or boundry. your life depends on your windshield fluid. run out of fluid...run off the road.
we need highway lights all the way to the valley. not big fancy ones. just enough to see the road.
flag this »3 January 28, 2007 - 8:23am | smetz80
The wonderful Glenn Highway!
I live in Settler's Bay (Mile #8 Knick Goose Bay Rd,outside Wasilla). I drive to Elmendorf AFB everyday in a VW Jetta, and have never went off into the ditch. Valley commuters drive like maniacs, driving 70 MPH on Ice, riding bumpers of cars ahead of them. I feel like Jeff Gordon in the Daytona 500. The bigger the vehicle (4x4 trucks and SUV's) the worse it gets, they think they are invincible and end up in the ditch. The state needs to get the bridge put in to help alleviate the traffic situation. Two years of this commute is enough for me, I am heading back to Anchorage, where the Road situation is not much better.
flag this »2 January 28, 2007 - 7:16am | bpence2
double trouble
I hate when those double semi-trucks with all that rubber and metal on a snowy highway are kicking up a 70 mph hurricane of fresh powder. They get in the glenn highway passing lane and thunder by cars only to leave behind a blizzard of white that leaves their passing motorists totally blind. I picture a smile of revenge on those truckers faces. A smile of sacrilegious humor. Slow down my big friend, Kids, grandmas and innocent people are in those little cars that you are scaring.
flag this »January 28, 2007 - 8:10am | little_ace
double trouble
i hate it when those semi trucks have flat tire and they peel off big chunk of rubber on the road and we have to dodge that and some time have to change lanes to avoid accidents do to this they need to pull over and pick up there pieces of tires that they leave on the road.and i think they need to stay in one lane instead of always changeing lanes
especially on real rainy days and when it really bad out side there are some really mean trucker out there.and i always get a kick out of those muncho 4 wheeler that go so fast on real bad days and later see them in the ditch few hundered yard down the road.that really make my day.
flag this »1 January 28, 2007 - 7:00am | sockeye
Dodge drivers
Ok, its taught me that guys that drive these big dodge trucks must have size issues, they tailgate, always want to be in front and are generally on the cell phone, but the most hilarious thing is, when they get to their destination and hop out of that big bad truck, they're usually short little fellas w/ balding heads!
flag this »January 28, 2007 - 1:55pm | Bonjo
Dodge Drivers
Now I remember why I left Alaska 22 years ago! Thanks for jogging my memory, sockeye. Apparently those Alaskan fellows are STILL overestimating the size of their, ah, 'possessions'. Down here in the Lower 48, it's more car-to-car combat (too many cars, not enough pavement) than whiteouts and "I'm king-of-the-road"itis. It's a jungle out there on the Glenn Highway. Good luck.
flag this »January 29, 2007 - 6:19pm | alaskapat528
Question
So you're saying that 22 years ago when the Glenn was a one lane hwy. it was just as bad lol. Have driven in Philadelphia, they have some nutty drivers there also. So just curious what lower 48 state did you move to. I love the New England states..have family there, but their taxes are out of this world.
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