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Posted: October 31, 2007 - 2:18 pm
After the prosecution gave the first part of its closing argument, Kohring’s lawyer, John Henry Browne stood in front of jury.
“What you’re about to do will probably be one of the most important and serious things that you’ve ever done in your life,” Browne told the jurors.
The government’s argument sounds pretty persuasive Browne said. But only if you ignore the burden of proof. “If you ignore the presumption of innocence.”
One of the things buried in this case is that it’s perfectly all right for a legislator to vote I favor of things that his supporters favor.
“Halliburton gives money to the Bush camp and Halliburton expects some attention from the Bush people. That’s all legal. General motors gives money to legislators, and expects legislators to do things,” Browne said.
So do teachers unions and teamsters, he said.
Browne talked about the government must prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt. He pointed out that the feds started out by saying, for example, that Kohring tried to get a pickup truck from Veco. That never went anywhere, he said.
At that, a woman on the jury looked at the prosecutors.
Browne read from a sheet of notes with passages highlighted in pink.
Kohring served for years, Browne said. He was re-elected even after people knew an investigation was in the works, and people knew him as an honest man.
Browne talked about the phone call between Smith and Kohrnig, where Smith tells Kohring “don’t you dare” go crazy over the oil tax legislation.
“But according to Mr. Sullivan, they already owned him,” Browne said.
Browne asked the jury to listen to the secretly recorded FBI tapes very carefully.
“You will hear… for example … that Vic Kohring never asked for any money, ever, from Mr. Smith and Mr. Allen. He asked for a loan.”
Updated 3 p.m.
PART TWO: 'Not guilty means not proven'
No one can characterize Kohring’s conversation with Allen about a loan as a payment to Kohring, Browne told the jury. That’s fallen apart for the prosecutors, he said.
One of the prosecution’s points is that Kohring told Smith he’d lobbied or met with specific legislators.
So where are those legislators as witnesses? Browne asked.
“It is apparent to you, is it not, how much, (how) many resources the government has?” Browne asked the jury.
“Have you ever been in a (situation) where the government is going after you? Because let me tell you, there is absolutely no end to that deep pocket,“ Browne said.
One of the jurors, a man in the back, nodded.
Browne told the jury they saw FBI agents testify in this case from all over the country – Texas, California. You’ve seen the resources they have, he said.
Kohring and Browne are by themselves, he said.
“Do you not think that if Mr. Kohring lobbied legislators for Veco, the government, who has all these resources, would have them here as resources?” Browne said. “To say, ‘Yeah, Vic did come to me and was pushing this and pushing that.’”
Browne told the jurors that this was his only chance to talk to them. The prosecution would get the last word – and that’s because the burden of proof is such a high hurdle.
That’s for a reason, he said.
“I am waving the flag a little bit. … There are 18- and 19-year-old kids dying today in support of these principles.”
Browne took out the first of a few visual aids he’d brought into court: A white placard with black writing on it. He put it on a stand for the jury to see what it said:
“Not guilty means not proven. “
By finding Kohring “not guilty,” the jury wouldn’t necessarily be saying “he’s as pure as the driven snow,” Browne said.
“Not guilty means not proven,” he repeated.
“That these people with all of their resources” … Brown gestured to the prosecutors …”And the resources of the United States of America, have not proven their case.”
Updated 3:35 p.m.
PART THREE: Central casting for a ‘sleazy lobbyist’
“What this case is not about is prejudice about politicians,” Browne told the jury.
There must be more politician jokes than lawyer jokes these days, he said.
This case is not about the legislature’s internal ethics rules and regulations, Browne said.
“This case is not about legitimate contributions and fundraisers.”
“This case is not about assuming that a gift is a bribe … without an agreement to do something illegal."
How did we get here? Browne asked.
It all began with a lobbyist, Frank Prewitt, he said. “He was in trouble with the law, but wouldn’t admit it ...”
Browne took a drink of water.
The government started hearing names of politicians, Browne said. “When the names came out, the FBI started drooling. The names they heard were Ted Stevens. The names they heard were Ben Stevens. The names they heard were Don Young…”
One name was Kohring, he said, talking about how the government made a mistake in Kohring’s case.
Today, it seems it’s common for the government to not admit its mistakes, Browne told the jury.
He said the prosecution didn’t actually know how Kohring voted on PPT before the trial. The prosecution claims Kohring got a payment when in fact he asked for a loan, Browne said.
As for the charge that the job Kohring’s nephew got with Veco amounted to a bribe – that’s ridiculous, Browne said. “Their case is so weak, they turn to that as a basis for a bribe.”
Browne accused the prosecutors of adding new charges because their case was failing – charges such as the complaint about Kohring firing Musser and staying out of Sen. Lyda Green’s race (he called her “Lyla”) at Allen’s request.
Browne said he’s not faulting the government for its corruption investigations, but he looked to draw a clear line between his client and the other politicians.
He talked about Ted Stevens and $400,000 from Veco. (I’ll get to this in the prosecution’s final statements, but they say that number never came up in trial. I'm trying to stick to one side's case at a time.)
Ben Stevens was paid $250,000 in consulting contracts, Browne said. Anderson got $20,000 and a consulting job.
Browne pointed out that he asked Allen if the work on Stevens house was a gift. Allen said it wasn’t.
In contrast, Browne said, the amount of money in Kohring’s case is “less than it would cost you and I to buy a plasma TV set.”
As Browne talked about other public officials, one of prosecutors stood and objected. The judge said something about Browne being “close to the line.”
The defense lawyer returned his focus to Frank Prewitt – the corrections consultant/lobbyist who jurors saw talking to Kohring on a secret tape earlier in the week.
“Mr. Prewitt is central casting for a lobbyist. A sleazy lobbyist, frankly,” Browne told the jury.
He said the government used Prewitt to try and entrap Kohring, and that while Kohring didn't look good eating on camera, he doesn’t hang himself the way the investigators wanted.
The only corroborated evidence of Kohring getting money in the case is the Easter egg money, he said.
Browne said: “If you’re going to believe everything that Mr. Sullivan just said. You have to rely on Bill Allen’s word.”
Updated 4:25 p.m.
PART FOUR: Bill Allen's word
After telling the jury that to believe the prosecutors, they have to believe Bill Allen, Browne brought out another visual aid.
This was an excerpt of jury instructions. Browne said the instructions talk about witnesses. I took his message to the jury to be: Take what a witness has to say with a grain of salt if that witness was a deal that could get them a lighter sentence for cooperating.
Browne told the jury that the fact Allen pleaded guilty means nothing as far as Kohring is concerned, and: “Examine Bill Allen’s testimony with greater caution (than) that of other witnesses.”
Browne referenced all the profanity the jury heard on the tapes. “True character is how you act when nobody is watching. Mr. Allen told you that if he knew he was being taped, he wouldn’t have used all those bad words and he wouldn’t have said all those things.”
Browne said: Allen’s demeanor on the stand was self-serving and “pathetic,” and he seemed to want sympathy for only selling Veco for $400 million. “He has memory problems. He has a brain injury. He obviously drinks too much.”
At one point, Browne called Allen: “blasphemous,” “rude,” arrogant,” “grandoise,” and intoxicated and obsessed with power. Making $1 billion a year apparently wasn’t enough for the Veco chief, he said.
Later in his closing argument, Browne said Allen couldn’t describe the conspiracy he’d pleaded guilty too. Browne, quoted Allen, imitating in a drawl: “I just sign what the laywers put in from of me …"
Browne talked about the possibility of Allen’s children being charged if Allen doesn’t cooperate
“Would you, and I’ll pause for dramatic effect, would you make a critical decision in your life based on Bill Allen’s testimony?” Browne asked.
Would you even buy a car from Bill Allen? he asked.
Toward the end of his remarks, Browne seemed to re-assure the jury that it’s OK for them to find Kohring not guilty.
“We know innocent people are arrested every day. And we know that juries find people not guilty every day.”
“Maybe that will disappoint the prosecutors, and maybe that will disappoint the press,” Browne gestured to gallery, “But you cannot disappoint yourselves.”
He asked the jury to use common sense and think about how many times Kohring said on the tapes that he didn’t want a “freebie.
“Do you hear Ted Stevens saying that? Do you hear Ben Stevens saying that?” he asked.
This drew an objection.
“Contain, Mr. Browne,” said the judge.
Browne talked about the various exhibits, pointing out where Kohring said he wants to keep things legitimate, saying that he’s coming to Allen as a friend.
He told the jury that in this case, the government ran into two 6’6” obstacles – a defendant who wouldn’t roll over and “who believes in this system and who believes you’ll do the right thing,” and a lawyer who believes the government has “sadly failed” to prove their case.
Browne talked about the Easter egg money, saying Allen told him to put the money in the eggs. Browne imitated Allen, slurring his words: “This is what I want you to do.”
Before he finished, Browne took out one last placard and placed it in front of the jury.
“Be your word,” it said.
You promised to hold the government to its standard and its burden of proof, he said.
“You promised us you’d do these things, and I’m asking you to do that. Be your word. Thank you.”
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16 November 1, 2007 - 2:37am | Citizenview
When does guilt strike a jury?
It is said that the guilt or innocence of a defendant is determined at a very early stage in the trial among jurors. That is to say that first impressions are the last impressions. However, there may be exceptions to this unwritten fact of life and Kohring's case may well fall into that exception.
The defence has definitely reversed or slowed down a freight train by a brilliant presentation and impeachment of the star witness of the prosecution. It is very possible to believe that this is a case of reversed roles. A multi million dollar rat is the one who should be in the defence seat. It is appearing to be a case of false witness.
Kohring is guilty of something but not felonies. The closing arguments by Browne may have brought epiphany within the minds of jurors.
Revised prediction:
Not guilty of any felonies
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15 October 31, 2007 - 7:07pm | kellied
I couldn't have kept a stright face.
“What you’re about to do will probably be one of the most important and serious things that you’ve ever done in your life,” Browne told the jurors.
OK, I am hooked on this trial, but when it's over there will be at least two more. Linehan's trial was off the website in a week, just like this will be. I know it's important to Vic-- but is this the most important thing they will do? Even in the top ten? Give birth, buy homes, see a child's dance recital, a hockey tournament, get married, make a decision to get a divorce (Browne knows about that,) decide to study extra hard for a college class and get accepted into a special master's program at Cornell (or obsess over this-- never mind.) Browne must think people have lame lives to think what they decide on a jury is one of the most important and most serious yadda-yadda-yadda. What they decide is one of the most important to Vic. He should be thanking them from the bottom of his heart for taking time out from their lives to be there for his client and really impress how important it is to Vic. Plead about Vic being dedicated to his non-existant wife. His step daughter-- his pet rock!
Browne, I wish I was able to talk to you and I would laugh in your pretentious face. This trial will be over in a matter of days and "the most important thpttttt" will be a distant memory within a week. No matter what the outcome, the jurors will go to their boring lives and have. . . frankly, more exciting, more important and more serious things to consider.
If a juror bursts out laughing at high drama, do they get axed or can they stay? I think I'd still make a solid, unbiased decision, but I think I'd fall over laughing at this.
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14 October 31, 2007 - 6:48pm | KatRock_AK
If Vic Kohring didn't want a freebie....
Then what did he do for the money he received?
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October 31, 2007 - 7:14pm | gilld
...to McDonalds for burgers for the boys in 604?
Sat around decorating писанка with Bill and his Russian girlfriend?
Made balloon animals for the kids at the Veco Christmas party?
Cut Rick Smith's grass?
Drafted letters pleading clemency for Tom Anderson?
Designed a board game based upon the "Pipeline Pig?"
Uh, "kissed ass?"
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13 October 31, 2007 - 6:33pm | Natalie_0
Good thing about those video cameras...you can't hide from the facts because they tell the real story. When you see something going down on video camera, you don't have any room for more than one conclusion of what is actually taking place. Kohring did not receive gifts and he knew the money he got from VECO wasn't given to him as gifts which is why he didn't report it as gifts.
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12 October 31, 2007 - 5:36pm | doggone
w ho voted this guy in at least 6 times you valley people know your stuff same ones who vote r all the way
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11 October 31, 2007 - 4:51pm | AKSteveB
I only buy my used cars from Ralph Seekins
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October 31, 2007 - 5:12pm | F_Firkle
My ex-wife made that mistake once, but that's yet another story of 'corruption.' Ralph had practice before getting into the legislature... ;^>)
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10 October 31, 2007 - 4:42pm | metanoia2k
Browne Is Accomplishing Something I would never have dreamed
...possible just a few days ago.
I am actually feeling sympathy for Bill Allen. The smarmy manipulator Browne is actually ridiculing the loss that Allen (and Veco) suffered because of this criminal investigation and Allen's role in it. Allen could well have sold Veco for 100s of millions more had the Government given Veco immunity, but the govt did not do so. That IS a significant loss, so Allen's testimony should be given great weight because, basically, he has nothing more to lose. Allen has paid his dues, unlike Browne's freeloading client.
As one other commentor said: "Sheesh".
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October 31, 2007 - 7:35pm | KatRock_AK
Allen has paid his dues? Really?
This man who bribed legislators into taking actions that allowed the oil companies' to rape Alaska, so that his company would enjoy no bid contracts with them. This guy?
Awww....so, after all these years living like Boss Hogg, Bill Allen has to sell his company for less than he could have had he not been caught...or better yet, leave his corruption founded company to generate ill gotten gains for his kids,and we're supposed to have sympathy for him?
Why?
Because he made a couple million less than he could have...and suffered some embarrassment and humiliation because his true nature was caught on tape?
Okay...I'm sympathetic to the aged and appreciative of entrepeneurs who create jobs for Alaskans...but I can't be sorry for a guy who bribes legislators to take actions that cheat the rest of the state of its rightful due, recklessly ride a motorcycle without a helmet suffer brain damage from his own bravado, and then brag about how he "owns the ass" of some of our legislators because he's willing to give them the cash it takes to ensure his favorable position with the oil companies.
Nope, I can't feel sorry for him.
Bill Allen bought legislators in order to feather his own nest at the expense of the rest us and future generations of Alaskans. Old and infirm or not, the price is harsh but must be paid.
Bill Allen's embarrassment and (potentially) lesser profits from the sale of his business are not enough to atone for the bartering of our state's sovereignty.
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October 31, 2007 - 7:40pm | Lysander_Spooner
You're spot on with all of this.
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October 31, 2007 - 9:19pm | truthseeker
I gotta disagree with katrock on one issue. Make jobs for Alaskans? Not hardly. Bill Allen got his start from contracts he was given by the oil companies to break the Alaska unions on the north slope. Since then it has been a steady stream of texans and oakie coon asses up on the slope. Just go to the airport and check it out and you will see what I mean. Enough to make you puke. I think he even got busted for having a bunch of illegal aliens working up there at one point.
Yes, he made money, but at what cost?
Only thing we are missing on this thread is stags on here trying to justify all this BS. Must be tough to be so compromised you can't even look yourself in the mirror in the morning.
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October 31, 2007 - 8:20pm | KatRock_AK
Who will be the replacement voice / front for the oil companies?
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October 31, 2007 - 8:42pm | Lysander_Spooner
There are still plenty of industry-friendly folks who seem eager to prioritize corporate bottom lines over what's best for Alaska. There's Green, Huggins, Stedman, Cowdery, McGuire et al in the Senate, and Reps. Samuels, Harris, Chenault, Coghill, Meyer, Ramras, Olsen, Neuman, Johnson et al in the House. I'd say industry is well cared for.
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October 31, 2007 - 10:43pm | F_Firkle
The last I heard, Cowdery's wearing diapers and eating through a tube..
Maguire's somewhat tainted from residual exposure to the spot-light that was previously shining on Thom; how badly, we'll see....
Olsen?? Dunno'.
But yeah, the oilies don't look too endangered at this time; not based on what I've read about the special session thus far..
They've convinced -lots- of persons with their fantasy b.s. that if they have to pay the same revenues (that they're already paying in the majority of the rest of the world), that the sky will fall, fractured and oozing lava, and Jesus Christ himself will fart out the chorus from 'Old Man River'..
Gullibility, coupled with lemming-like behaviors and thoughts, especially in serious matters, oughta' -at least- be a misdemeanor..
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October 31, 2007 - 8:53pm | gilld
...who seems to serve the oil industry with little reflection and apparently little conscience is Ralph Samuels. He seems to carry their water (sorry to mix metaphors) without so much a glance over his shoulder. Totally witless.
He's like Vic Kohring, with better teeth. (And a tad smarter; but that's relative, of course.)
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October 31, 2007 - 8:45pm | KatRock_AK
I would only add Hawker.
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October 31, 2007 - 9:22pm | bob_the_contractor
That a former "Special Assistant" to Jerry Ward, who "cuts red tape and gets answers", who's also a former Legislative Aide to Lesil Mcguire now represents House District 28 ?
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October 31, 2007 - 10:45pm | truthseeker
is definitely one of the worst. We need our own red carpet list. Can someone compile one? Except the carpet is going to be one leading out the door of elected officialdom. These guys are really disgusting. Watch them on gavel to gavel. A bunch of really arrogant P**cks.
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October 31, 2007 - 8:49pm | Lysander_Spooner
Most definitely Hawker! Seems a shame to let him slide under just "et al". Thanks for the reminder.
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October 31, 2007 - 8:54pm | AK_Lady
Any plans to run for office, Lysander?
Jus wonderin'.
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9 October 31, 2007 - 4:31pm | metanoia2k
If The Jurors Buy This Line Of Bullsh*t...
...I will become more cynical than I already am about Alaskans.
The body of John Browne's argument lies molding in the grave of contradiction. First he argues that the government is trying to manipulate the prejudices of the jury against politicians and procedes to manipulate the prejudices of the jury against government. Then he asserts that other politicans are guilty of prostituting their offices for Veco because they got big dollars while Vic, on the other hand, got paid for his favors amounts totally less than a plasma TV.
Is the amount of the bribe--oh, excuse me, the "loan"--really a distinction without a difference? In other words, if Vic would bend over for a hamburger, all that proves is he was a cheap date.
C'mon people...PUH-leeze don't buy this guys line.
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8 October 31, 2007 - 4:30pm | tlamb775
...................
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7 October 31, 2007 - 4:17pm | Ter_H
Not as sleazy as Veco Vic!
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6 October 31, 2007 - 4:07pm | alyeska34
Then why on any of the tapes don't you hear Vic telling Allen when he could expect to get the "loan" back? Because he never intended to.
And I don't think comparing Veco to Haliburton is going to win any arguement for Vic. And what a touch by Browne to bring up our soldiers dying in Iraq....yeah, that will convince the jury he's innocent or rather "not guilty" cuz he sure as heck ain't innocent!!
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5 October 31, 2007 - 4:06pm | AKH
What are Vic's Chances? The Feds case has some holes but there is that tape.
My guess is
If the Jury comes back by midafternoon Thurs., vic is guilty on all charges.
If the Jury comes back by Friday evening. Maybe a split verdict- guilty on 1-2 counts not guilty on 2-3.
If it goes over the weekend - then who knows. Maybe time to make a deal.
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October 31, 2007 - 4:24pm | FbksObserver
How about later this afternoon
How hard could it be?
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October 31, 2007 - 5:17pm | F_Firkle
Hey!! It's All Hallows Eve!! The jurors have likely got kids too, ya' know....
I say that they come back by Friday, with a greater number of cavities, and chewing some serious gooey candy, while speaking through chocolate and caramel nougat, muttering something barely intelligible about, "Guilty, Yer Honor!!"
I'd wager a pizza and two Milk Duds on it!!
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4 October 31, 2007 - 3:41pm | jedmustang
Legal contributions vs Illegal bribes
This case is not about the legal contributions given to politicians during campaigns, within the limits and following procedures described by statute. This Kohring case is about illegal gifts and bribes he took from Allen and VECO. Comparing to legal (or perhaps even illegal) contributions by Halliburton, GM, and unions is not relavent.
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October 31, 2007 - 5:42pm | black33
Where's Kohring's APOC reports
If the Veco was gifts, why didn't Kohring report them to APOC. The defense is only claiming the $$ he got was a gift because they know any other characterization of it would undermine their case.
If only they could have shown that an experienced legislator like Kohring had duly noted the receipt of the "gifts" in his reports to the state.
These were not campaign contributions either- like Browne impllied when he brought up Halliburton. If Halliburton had been caught passing bags of money to Bush after an election that would be completely different than making legal, reportable contributions to his campaign.
Kohring attempted to get a truck, attempted to get a "loan-" the fact that neither actually happened doesn't mean Kohring did not make attempts to violate the law, and that the attempts themselves were violations.
Either way, he's out of the Legislature, presumably never to return.
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October 31, 2007 - 9:11pm | truthseeker
if he is acquitted, he will run again and I have no doubt the faithful in the valley will elect him again.
It is only required for a lobbyist to report gifts to lobbyists. Thanks to the Bill Allen "I'm not a lobbyist" law passed by the legislature, his gift is not illegal.
Now IRS might be another matter. Wonder if that's why the prosecution wanted to subpoena his IRS records?
Ah so, grasshoppa. Truthseeker may be onto something again.
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October 31, 2007 - 3:47pm | PChesbro
I, for one, contribute to politicians who seem to represent my view and who examine the evidence to make a decision that will benefit the greater good. I do not expect them to do as I say, but to listen with sensitivity to the issues I support and vote according to knowledge and good sense. If this is about payback, we'd better go to a system where every candidate gets a certain amount of public money and forget the contributions of groups and individuals.
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3 October 31, 2007 - 3:33pm | adn_20_antegrenkid
Kohring's attorney didn't exactly have a lot to work with when you have his guy caught on camera pocketing the cash... The big brother tactic only has to work on one or two jurors in order to hang it... It will be up to the rest of the jurors to bring them back to reality...
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2 October 31, 2007 - 3:05pm | Special_Agent_Roswell
You have to wonder if this guy is pandering to a "Red State" jury when he comes up with these examples.
“Halliburton gives money to the Bush camp and Halliburton expects some attention from the Bush people. That’s all legal. General motors gives money to legislators, and expects legislators to do things,” Browne said.
So do teachers unions and teamsters, he said.
Would he saying anything any different if the trial was in a "blue" state?
The fact is the jury is still out on Bush's transgressions, and most of the American folks (and world) see through that, on top of no longer being whole hearted blind supporters of W. And the teamsters? What a wonderful bunch of non-crooks to use as an example.
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October 31, 2007 - 4:34pm | kazoom
I haven't read anything about the prosecutor's closing yet, but I'm hoping he picked up on this ... when Halliburton or GM or the unions give money, it gets reported (well, at least most of it probably does). The problem with the money that Koehring was receiving in the tapes is that it was just pocketed and I seriously doubt that he reported it to either APOC or the IRS.
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1 October 31, 2007 - 2:39pm | fishwrapper
This is the only defense Browne has, but the juror's know it didn't work in the Kott trial and try as he might Browne wont get it to work in this trial.
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October 31, 2007 - 3:07pm | mikegalaska
I think Browne's defense was brilliant! It gives Vic grounds for appeal based on the fact that his attorney was a nincompoop!
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October 31, 2007 - 4:17pm | fishwrapper
Vic's wallet, since it's now six figures lighter! Oh yea, plus the appeal costs.
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October 31, 2007 - 3:25pm | wws
Mike:
Your analysis was right on - exceptional!
Wev Shea
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October 31, 2007 - 4:40pm | cacahuates
The real Wev Shea would know the standard for reversal due to ineffective counsel.
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October 31, 2007 - 4:20pm | fishwrapper
if Vic had had a public defender, and not one of the highest profile lawyer's in the PNW.
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October 31, 2007 - 3:19pm | FbksObserver
Attorneys Only Look Smart on TV
In real life they are just arrogant. How many people get to charge $200/hr for being dumb and arrogant?
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October 31, 2007 - 6:18pm | alaskabushpilot
Where can I get an attorney that's any good that cheap Today? The very least that I could find was $225, and that was for some real light weight paper work. But I have no idea how much a top notch attorney costs, and one from Seattle I'd love to know what he's getting out of this case. For a guy that's supposed t be broke all the time Vic sure did come in with some big guns into this case. Who's paying for it?
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October 31, 2007 - 4:16pm | bob_the_contractor
I dunno.
A Prostitute ?
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October 31, 2007 - 5:22pm | F_Firkle
Yeah, but I asked my wife, and she says that she doesn't think that Browne's that attractive. ;^>)
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October 31, 2007 - 4:22pm | FbksObserver
and the difference would be????
Oh yeah you always get f__ked by an attorney.
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17 | اغاني جلسات ابوبكر | اغاني اريام |
18 | اغاني سعودية قديمة | اغاني احلام |
19 | اغاني طلال مداح | اغاني نسيم العين الحربية |
20 | اغاني سعودية جديدة | اغاني فرقة نسايم |
21 | اغاني وعد | اغاني فرقة نجوم الخليج |
22 | اغاني محمد خلاوي | اغاني فرقة مشاعل |
23 | اغاني محمد الزيلعي | اغاني فرقة عذاري |
24 | اغاني فارس مهدي | اغاني فرقة شباب الوطن |
25 | اغاني عصام عارف | اغاني سلطانيز الامارات |
26 | اغاني عبدالله رشاد | اغاني فرقة سلامي |
27 | اغاني رابح صقر | اغاني فرقة ستارز |
28 | اغاني طلال سلامة | اغاني فرقة دبي |
29 | اغاني اصيل ابوبكر | اغاني فرقة بن نعمان |
ايجي | اغاني عبادي الجوهر | اغاني فرقة المقابيل
المصري | اغاني عبدالمجيد عبدالله | اغاني فرقة المزيود |
مجلة | اغاني اروى احمد | اغاني فرقة العين الحربية |
مواقع جديدة | اغاني فاطمة القرياني | اغاني فرقة الشموع البحرينية|
موسوعة | اغاني نسايم | اغاني فرقة الشلات الحربية |
كووورة | اغاني فتون | اغاني فرقة السيف |
ساحات | اغاني فاطمة زهرة العين | اغاني فرقة الرحابة|
قبيلة | اغاني الفنانة شمس | اغاني فرقة الحبايب |
مجالس | اغاني محمد المنهالي | اغاني يمنية قديمة |
ملتقى | اغاني يعقوب الداوود | اغاني فؤاد الكبسي |
جماهير | اغاني ياسر حبيب | اغاني فيصل علوي |
توب | اغاني وليد الجسمي | اغاني ايوب طارش |
بوابة | اغاني وليد ابراهيم | اغاني يمنية جديدة |
م | اغاني هزاع المنهالي | اغاني عبدالرب ادريس |
ة | اغاني نهيان الكثيري | اغاني احمد فتحي |
30 | اغاني معضد الكعبي | اغاني اروى اليمنية |
31 | اغاني مروان محمد | اغاني شعبية |
32 | اغاني سعودية شعبية | اغاني عيسى الاحسائي |
فيس بوك | اغاني فتى رحيمة | اغاني نواف منيف |
ترجمة قوقل | اغاني وطنية سعودية | اغاني بدر الغريب |
33 | اغاني مسلسلات | اغاني فتى نجران |
3ة | اغنية مسلسل | اغاني مزعل فرحان |
34 | اغاني عربية قديمة | اغاني خلف بن هذال |
35 | اغاني عربية جديدة | اغاني عبدالله السالم |
مكتبة
مراحل الحمل
عالم حواء
سندوتشات
طبخات بالصور
اطباق عالم حواء
كتاب الطبخ
مطبخ عالم حواء
ازياء عالم حواء
جمال عالم حواء
حواء الحمل و الولادة
اخبار النبراس
اخبار اوربا
اخبار العراق
اخبار فلسطين
اخبار الشرق الاوسط
اخبار امريكا
اخبار الجزيرة
اخبار الفن
الفن العربي
الفن الغربي
اخبار الحوادث
اخبار الارهاب
اخبار الكوارث
اخبار الصحة
اخبار الجرائم
اخبار الاقتصاد
اخبار الرياضة
اخبار الرياضة السعودية
اخبار الرياضة الاماراتية
اخبار الرياضة العالمية
اخبار الرياضة المصرية
خامات فوتوشوب
تحميل فوتوشوب
تعليم فوتوشوب
فرش فوتوشوب
سويش ماكس
تحميل سويش ماكس
دروس سويش ماكس
شرح سويش ماكس
ملفات مفتوحة سويش ماكس
برنامج فلاش flash
ملفات مفتوحة للفلاش
مشغل الفلاش
تحميل برنامج الفلاش
نجران
اليمن
سفارة اليمن
فنادق صنعاء
الجمهورية السورية
مدن سورية
اسرائيل
مستوطنة
سلطنة عمان
مدارس عمان
مسقط
مطاعم عمان
الامارات العربية المتحدة
سفارة الامارات
الشارقة
بنك
دبي
فنادق دبي
لهجة الامارت
قطر
فنادق قطر
المغرب
اغادير
الدار البيضاء
مدن المغرب
سفارة المغرب
لبنان
جمعية لبنان
السودان
مدن سودانية
السياحة في السودان
مسجات
رسائل حب
رسائل معايدة
رسائل الجوال
أدب وفن
تحميل كتاب
ابيات شعر
معنى كلمة
معنى اسم
روايات
روايات عبير
روايات احلام
روايات جواسيس
روايات سعودية
روايات جديدة
طبق
جامعة
صوت
منتدى النبراس للالعاب
منتدى العاب
سوالف الأعضاء
التصميم
القسم الرياضي
مستلزمات التصميم
فرفشة
قسم المسابقات و الالعاب
العاب الجوال
السوفت وير
الهاردوير
مركز تحميل
تطوير المنتديات
لـعـبـة تـرافـيـان , Travian Games
حرب القبائل
World of Warcraft
العاب اون لاين
لعبة يوغي يو Yo Gi Oh
العاب التصويب FPS
الاستفسارات و المشاكل
ألعاب البي سي PC Games
قسم العاب التورينت , Torrent
الألعاب الاستراتيجية RTS
قسم الالعاب
Playstation World
PLAYSTATION® Network
PlayStation®Portable
Xbox World
Nintendo World
Console Games
Warcraft III & Dota-Allstars
Multiplayer
الدعم الفني والطلبات
سيد الخواتم , معركة الأرض الوسطى
Battle For Middle Earth I & II & ROTWK Replays
الدعم الفني وطلبات Battle For Middle Earth
Generals & Zero Hour Balance & Multiplayer issues discussions
Generals & Zero Hour Replays
الدعم الفني والطلبات لـ Generals Zero Hour
Red Alert 3
Red Alert 3 Replays
منتدى انمي
رسوم انمي
تقارير الانمي
المانجا
مدونات الانمي
صور الانمي
انمي اكشن
Manga Masters
انمي جديد
افلام انمي
حلقات انمي مترجمة
مسلسلات انمي
حلقات انمي
اغاني انمي
كليبات انمي
الضيافة
رساله من السماء
اناشيد اسلامية
ربعي
MMS
همسات
رماس
الالعاب و الترفية
اعضاء تحت المجهر
دراما يابانية و كورية
الثقافة الاسيوية
Graphics
Flicker
pixel
الانامل
تعليم رسم الانمي
القصص و الروايات
إحساس قلم
اخبار الرياض
اخبار نجران
اخبار الدمام
اخبار عسير
اخبار الجبيل
اخبار ينبع
اخبار حائل
اخبار جازان
اخبار السعودية
برامج كمبيوتر
برنامج الوافي
تحميل ماسنجر
برامج الاسهم
برامج الجوال
جوال الجيل الثالث
العاب جوال نوكيا
برامج حماية
برامج تصميم
افلام , مسلسلات
مسلسل تركي
مسلسلات mbc
افلام اجنبية
مسلسلات سعودية
سينما الكويت
مسلسل كويتي
مسرحية كويتية
مسلسلات قطرية
مسلسلات بحرينية
سينما مصر
مسرحيات مصرية
فيلم مصري
مسلسل مصري
مسلسلات رمضان
افلام كرتون
مسلسل اماراتي
موسوعة القرآن
قصص القرآن
سور القرآن
تلفون الكويت
صالون
صيدلية
دليل هاتف
اغاني
دليل الفن
مواقع الجوال
دليل الحيوانات
مواقع الشيعة
منتديات رياضية
خدمات المواقع
محركات البحث
الصحة و الطب
مدونة
قبيلة
مواقع الالعاب
مواقع الدردشة
الجرائد و الصحف
منتديات الاسهم
الشركات المساهمة
التحليل
البنوك
مواقع نسائية
شرح تركيب هاك
هاكات 3.6
هاكات 3.8
هاكات 3.7
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