Alaska Politics Blog

This is the place to talk about Alaska politics, state, local, national. Public life in the Last Frontier has rarely been more interesting -- a full slate of federal and state elections, the influence of former Gov. Sarah Palin, the usual hardball Alaska politics. Come here for news, tidbits and information, and join the discussion. We encourage lively debate, but please keep it civil and stay on point. Don't use profanity, make crude comments or attack other posters. Posts that violate the Terms of Use will be deleted. Repeat offenders will lose their ability to post comments.

Sean Cockerham

Sean Cockerham writes about Alaska state politics. He's worked for the ADN in Anchorage and Juneau, covered the legislature for the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner, and covered Washington state politics for the Tacoma News Tribune. E-mail Sean at scockerham@adn.com

Kyle Hopkins

Kyle Hopkins covers rural affairs, general assignments and politics for the ADN. He covered the 2006 campaign for governor, has blogged extensively about Alaska politics, covered Anchorage city government and was a reporter based in the Mat-Su. He grew up in Southeast Alaska and previously wrote for the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner and Anchorage Press. E-mail Kyle at khopkins@adn.com and also find him on our rural Alaska blog, The Village.

David Hulen

David Hulen, the ADN's state and local news editor, is responsible for political coverage. He has been an editor and reporter at the ADN for more than 20 years. E-mail David at dhulen@adn.com

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A new approach

From Sean Cockerham in Juneau --

The state House Special Committee on Oil and Gas just released its version of the governor’s oil tax bill. Looks like the House is headed in a whole different direction on the tax.

The House committee bill strips out the base state oil tax rate increase that Gov. Sarah Palin proposed. Just like the state Senate Resources Committee did to Palin's bill this morning.

But the House bill does something the Senate bill doesn't. The House version increases the tax surcharge the state gets from the companies when oil prices are high to an even greater level than what the governor wanted. That surcharge is known in the debate down here as "progressivity."

House oil and gas committee chair Kurt Olson, R-Soldotna, said the bill would bring in more money to the state at high oil prices than Palin’s.

But it would also bring in less to the state when prices dip.

“I think what we’ll do at the end of the session will be relatively close to this,” he predicted.

Palin administration officials said they need to comb through the new House bill and see what they think. They need to see, for example, just how high oil prices need to be for this bill to bring in more than the governor’s.

“It’s a fiscal puzzle we need to analyze,” said state revenue commissioner Pat Galvin. “Conceptually, I think it’s worth looking at.”

© Copyright 2011, The Anchorage Daily News. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

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  10     October 29, 2007 - 6:41am | BravoSierra

And tack on the original 5 billion Exxon judgement

It would be Poetic Justice if the legislature just tacked the original 5 Billion on to the new Oil Tax Bill.

Of course that would be the end of the free trips to McDonalds from the oilies.

The Exxon claimants should have got together years ago and bought some legislators, who are apparently much cheaper than lawyers, then they wouldn't have had to worry about a California court meddling in an Alaska jury award.

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  9     October 28, 2007 - 11:20pm | tlamb775

Paging Dan Fagan: Never trust a paid expert

http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/story.html?id=eb03353e-ab8f-4dce-a2c0-363eed20d14b&k=21360

"...The analysis from world-renowned oil and gas economist Pedro van Meurs came a day after a member of the government-appointed royalty panel argued Premier Ed Stelmach's new strategy is "a blatant deceit" of Albertans and doesn't offer them a fair share of energy development.

"I believe that the proposed terms are highly detrimental to Alberta. They provide for only a minimal increase in revenues, compared to what was already a very modest proposal by the panel. The new terms will not give Albertans a fair share of the oilsands revenues," van Meurs said in an analysis provided to the Herald.

"Albertans have lost the opportunity to gain a secure and reasonable share from the rapidly increasing oilsands production," van Meurs said."

However, in Edmonton:

http://www.edmontonsun.com/Comment/2007/10/26/4606887-sun.html

"...Not only is Alberta's word not its bond, neither are its contracts with the very companies that took most of the risk and put this province into the most enviable fiscal position in all of the western world. Thanks to Stelmach's one, ill-made promise, a contract with the Alberta government has been rendered as meaningful as one with Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe.

Welcome to the banana republic of Albertistan!'"

(...)

"...Obviously, no one will be walking away from their $20- billion investments in Alberta's north. The fear is, however, that planned future investments will go to more profitable locales where a contract is still a contract. Places like Qatar or Saskatchewan.

And judging from the questions Stelmach was getting yesterday, the premier is going to get it from both sides -- from those who want to sock it to big oil and those who think messing with the formula that brought the golden goose to life is foolhardy."

http://www.gov.sk.ca/news?newsId=967dbf4a-e678-47e5-8c66-a627763e862b

Saskatchewan: The best place to live, work and raise a family

http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2007/10/goodbye-alberta.html

Goodbye Alberta -- hello Saskatchewan?
The timing is perfect: just as Alberta is about to bring in a Tommy Douglas-style tax hike on the oil patch (and -- worse -- rip up signed contracts with the oil sands), Saskatchewan is about to elect the free market Sask Party.

http://communities.canada.com/calgaryherald/blogs/hannaford/archive/2007/10/26/don-t-blame-stelmach.aspx

Don't blame Stelmach
"...If this royalty review thing goes wrong, Albertans should blame theselves. They won’t, of course. They’ll blame Premier Ed Stelmach."

(...)

"...Of course, there may be a price to pay, in industry slowdown and job losses. So, if things go bad look in the mirror, and say this: “In a democracy, you can’t grumble if the government gives you what you ask for.” Then, turn off the light before you go to the bank, to drop off the keys."

Governor Palin the blame will be put on you as will be done on Stelmach.

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  8     October 28, 2007 - 10:11pm | akallegro

Sean

can you or anyone else shed some light on what Ramras tried to pull in the afternoon session today?

He offered up some amendment to provide some tax break to a company to get a lower cost of natural gas for Fairbanks. When questioned it turned out the break would not in anyway be assured to benefit consumers as he was trying to portray.

I think all other reps at the table where surprised he was even bringing it up at this session and voted no on it.

Looked pretty slimy to say the least and had no business being offered up in a special session on oil taxes.

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  October 29, 2007 - 7:06am | Lysander_Spooner

Ramras, slimy? No!

Par for the course with that guy.

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  7     October 28, 2007 - 7:38pm | TheSdog

"Progressivity"

It seems that increasing the rate more as oil goes up should be a cornerstone of any plan.

That along with simply closing the loopholes would make a big difference and should be acceptable. Those two things are what needs to come out of this session and than revisit it next year.

The same old socialist rhetoric below is getting old. Nobody has actually said they like Palin's plan or even offered what a "fair share" is. Some of us have at least suggested what we would do and even talked about what a fair rate would be.

And Leo, the class warfare arguments are nothing more than the same liberal games. It seems the strategy is always to attack the successful and defend the government dependents. You really do need to crack open an economics text and read it sometime.

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  October 29, 2007 - 5:04am | Stags_Leap

the other option

is to leave the current PPT as-is, aside from closing loopholes allowing deductions for maintenance costs -due to negligence.

If people remember the facts, the current PPT is NOT something Big Oil wanted. The rate that was passed was much higher than Big Oil and Bill Allen wanted. That "tainted with corruption" crap may get you a photo opportunity, but it is really meaningless in this particular case.

Learn from Alberta's mistakes, and put that rhetoric aside.

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  October 29, 2007 - 7:43am | truthseeker

Funny stags...............

how you never address the subject people are writing about, but just go back to your palin bashing/oil company sucking routine. Sdog raised a very legitimate point on progressivity. If nothing else the legislature should do this.

At $70 to $90/bbl the oil company profits are obscene. How much greed is enough for you?

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  October 29, 2007 - 7:00am | iHEARTmea

"Tainted with corruption crap"

What rock have you been living under, Stags?

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  October 29, 2007 - 7:08am | Lysander_Spooner

Hey, iHEART ...

... don't waste your time responding to that one. He's a hopelessly -- and cluelessly -- lost cause.

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  October 28, 2007 - 10:34pm | leowassilie

Simplicity

One thing that could be done would to have 2 basic models, each representing the hybrid.

There would be 2 calculations. One simple, based on oil value at the date the oil leaves Valdez, or even based on the average price of oil for that month, to smooth out calculations into 12 instead of 365. I think this is how the royalty works already, but you could add the same percentage to that as a loyalty take (tax w.e.) of 20%. The loyalty take would be solely dedicated to the Constitutional Budget Reserve, as the royaly goes to a few different funds. This is where Alaska gets its fair share. It is OUR take. They money is put into the CBR which demands strict budget control due to the accessibility requirement of 3/4.

The second part would be PPT. The credit for exploration is allowed there. The tax rate would have to actually be lower than it currently is, because the first part taken is based on the value of the oil at the time is leaves Alaska. Let them have their precious 20%. Of course, all dedicated to the General Fund.

The second part is based on the profit we share in because it's our oil, their investment. This is where the industry gets their credit for investing in Alaska.

I don't know, seems kinda simple.

Economics:

Let's say a country like Iran has nuclear energy. They use it for energy, because they sit on some of the largest supplies of oil. Instead of using carbon for energy, they use nuclear reactors. The two sides to it are this:
1. Nuclear reactors can spin weapons grade.
2. Nuclear reactors allow carbon to be sold on the world market to much more thirsty countries that rely on a inefficient consumption based economy.

I wonder what worries GW more, potential weapons grade or Iran getting richer? We know what side he spins publicly. Kinda like Iraq rhetoric. No body needs weapons grade though, and the region sure doen't like current US unilateral policy.

Iran already has partners in the deal too with Russia and China wanting every last drop. They know the economic issues, and that's why they won't support the US in the unilateral sanctions going in place.

Alaska has been giving away this valuable reserve for decades at dirt prices through dirt politicans. Alaska should always have had the value added component as a requirement for the economic plan for our energy. It belongs to the state.

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  October 28, 2007 - 8:17pm | sgitrak

Amen Sdog.....

I haven't read one post from anyone espousing this theory of Alaska's fair share to what that might be.

Seems to me, when times are good our fair share is more. When times are bad our fair share is less. That appears to be exactly what the changes to ACES does by jacking up the progressivity.

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  6     October 28, 2007 - 6:32pm | rfn

In consideration of the possibility that:

* The outcome of the special session may be an oil tax plan that is even more favourable to Big Oil than the present "tainted" PPT.

* Such a plan might well be vetoed, leaving things as they stand for the nonce.

A meeting earlier today involving several legal professionals and aspiring state legislature wannabes has set off research into the potential of a voter initiative to seize the issue and take direct action. Strong belief that having such a proposition on the ballot along with their efforts to unseat several incumbents might be most helpful.

2008 might, indeed, be a year of big changes.

Of course the present legislature might yet pull a rabbit out of the hat. Most of the bets, however, were that anything that might come out of the hat would look more like an oil-soaked duck.

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  5     October 28, 2007 - 4:42pm | akallegro

Doogans list

Sean, can you get the list Doogan passed out in committee today and post it?

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  October 28, 2007 - 6:40pm | gilld

akallegro

...are you talking about Rep. Doogan's 10-point list of things one "has to believe" to support a net profits tax? The one he sent to his constituents on Oct. 26?

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  October 28, 2007 - 7:39pm | akallegro

I believe

thats the one, do you have it?

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  October 28, 2007 - 7:47pm | gilld

"Red Queen" Email

(Mike Doogan, email to constitutents, Oct. 26, 2007):

"To support a net profits tax, the current PPT or the governor’s ACES proposal, you have to believe that:

1. State tax policy should be designed to give the oil companies more money, and the state treasury less, because the companies will reinvest that revenue in Alaska.

- Well, no. Last year, the oil companies spent $1.7 billion exploring and developing oil in Alaska, according to figures I’ve received from the state Department of Revenue. They shipped at least $6 billion in profits out of the state. That means that for every $1 our tax law allows a company to keep, it will invest 28 cents or less.

2. Reinvestment will result in more money to the state at some point than we let the companies keep.

- We don’t know that, for two reasons.

- First, there’s risk. Some oil industry activity, like exploration, is very risky. A dry hole doesn’t get you anything. And in the time between the investment and the time more oil is pumped, the price could drop enough that the state gets less value than it would have gotten by taking the money in the first place.

- Second, a dollar is worth more today than it is tomorrow. If you give a company $10 today, and it gives you back $11 five years later, you lose.

3. If it doesn’t, the economic benefits to Alaskans will make up the difference.

- We don’t know that, either. There’s no doubt that if the companies invest more, there will be more economic activity. But, there’s no telling who benefits. For example, there’s a lot of talk about creating jobs for Alaskans. Given the oil companies’ crumby record on Alaska hire, we’re more likely to be creating jobs for Texans.

4. You know how each of the oil companies operating in Alaska makes its investment decisions.

- Nope, sorry. PPT and ACES imagine a world in which all decisions are the result of economic models. But for all we know, the decisions are made by guys wearing beer-can hats and throwing darts at a map. Actually, the truth probably lies somewhere between those theories. Where, exactly? We don’t know.

5. Our tax policy is a deciding factor in that decision-making process.

- This is just plain wrong. The single most important factor in oil industry decision making is how likely an investment is to produce more oil that’s worth more than it takes to produce. In fact, this is so important it trumps everything else. Companies will invest in places where the government takes 90 cents of every $1 if the “rocks” are good.

- The second-most important factor is how much that oil is worth. At today’s prices, almost anything short of drilling on the moon makes sense. The third, surprisingly, is whether your company has the people to do the job.

- Is our tax policy the fourth-most important factor? I don’t really know, and the people who do aren’t saying.

6. Those decision-making procedures are congruent enough that you can manipulate all of them with a single tax law.

- A dozen investment committees in a dozen different places, working for a dozen different companies with different goals, all make the same decisions based on what is, at best, the fourth-most important factor in their decision. Good luck.

7. You can write a tax law that will do that.

- Again, good luck. All we know for sure about the most recent attempt to do that, the PPT, is that it’s bringing in quite a bit less revenue than the state expected. Is it stimulating investment? Check back in a few years. Is that investment resulting in more oil production? Check back a few years after that. In plain words, both the PPT and ACES are a seven-year leap of faith.

8. Your tax policy is so good that it will run by itself for some period of time.

- That’s what all this talk about “tax stability” is. You have to like your law a lot to say we’ll just let it run until 2011 before we re-evaluate it. Why? Because by 2011, we’ll be pumping about 25 percent less oil. And if our tax policy was wrong, that oil’s gone. There’s no way to try to capture more of its value.

9. If your tax policy doesn’t do what you expected it to do, it’s not the tax policy’s fault.

- That’s what people are saying now. The PPT brought in $800 million less than we expected? That’s not a problem with the law. Costs were higher. Well, if the law didn’t work in the real world, it’s not a good law, is it?

10. If your tax policy results in the companies keeping more money than you wanted them to, you can claw that money back.

- History doesn’t support this idea at all. The state and the oil companies disagreed on royalty rates and, years later, the state settled the cases for pennies on the dollar. Same thing happened on the severance tax and the corporate income tax. And we’re disputing pipeline tariffs with the industry all the time. What makes anyone think this is going to be any different?

So to believe in a net tax, you have to be like the Red Queen in Through the Looking Glass, who could believe six impossible things before breakfast. Except you’ve gotta believe in 10."

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  October 28, 2007 - 8:32pm | akallegro

Thanks x10 gilld

At least we have one rep that can see past the pablum of percents and face the facts.

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  October 28, 2007 - 9:04pm | truthseeker

Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

don't tell me we elected a legislator that has both brains and a sense of humor. Must make you proud to be a democrat ehhhh Stags.

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  October 28, 2007 - 9:04pm | truthseeker

Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

don't tell me we elected a legislator that has both brains and a sense of humor. Must make you proud to be a democrat ehhhh Stags.

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  4     October 28, 2007 - 1:02pm | leowassilie

big boys

Are the reason we are experiencing huge inflation.

This has killed the value of the US dollar.

While they continue to reap record profits, our economy will hit a down turn.

The value of the record profits aren't probably what they were even 2 years ago because of the US dollar taking a hit.

However, the fact is the economic value is close to the same, meaning that even though they are making huge profits, the profit value isn't as high as we see. Unless of course, they hedged the value of the dollar on foreign currency markets.

But, pretty much everyone else who is not in the top 1% of income earners in the nation has lost considerable economic value of their dollar earned.

People are beginnning to struggle to even pay for basic commodities and soft goods.

The housing market is tumbling, and will tumble because of overinflated values. The declining value of the US dollar has probably caused this to happen coupled with the "special" mortgages that people are now defaulting on. GW has pushed this in his campaigns stating how record number of people are owning homes, yet now the nation is having record number of defaults.

But basically, with the record profits, the top wage earners are earning more, while the rest of us are earning less. Their dollars have increased at/or above the rate at which the US dollar has declined, therefore they are able to maintain economic value. The rest of us lose value because the rate at which inflation has increased has not had a corresponding effect in our earnings.

They are getting the tax breaks too?

The free market economy has been consolidated into a monarchal oligarchy. Anti-trust laws have been alleviated to allow mergers of already mega corporations.
This means we have less competition and choice in our purchases and services. This means they CUT jobs. This means they go outside of the US to build products and provide service jobs.

This is the biggest reason we see little investment from smaller companies to produce oil. The big 3 have a monopoly in the fields and in the pipeline.

Smaller companies cannot compete with the big 3 when the big 3 can charge more for moving the oil along TAPS. Inherently they are charging more because each recoups 1/3 of the cost of transporting the oil along the line. The small companies do not recoup any of the cost.

The state land available for development is dwindling. At least, the prime land.

We really need to collect as much as we can now because it is our resouce. It is OURS. We can still offer incentives for investment, and they can still maintain reasonable profits.

Our resource becomes more valuable every day. We shouldn't simply give it away at the cheapest cost simply because they threaten jobs. Some state jobs probably should go, but really, if we don't collect what we should we threaten state jobs.

So the toss up is, do we want to lose jobs up north, where a huge proportion are non residents? Or do we want to lose state jobs, where they are Alaskan residents?

I don't believe their threats of "investment" will be any different than they have before. They are here, they are making huge profits. The show they put on though, is preying on the meek and weak minded. The state is filled with them.

Record profits should be incentive enough to continue investment. Especially with known and proven reserves. We can offer incentives for exploration. That is fine. However, we should not continue to allow our resource to be depleted by the industry when record profits and record prices go to the shareholders in Houston. Enough of our Federal Dollars already go there to subsidize the Pharmaceuticals, the Haliburtons, the Lockheed-Martins.

Don't kid yourself into believing that just because the industry threatens investment dollars that they are somehow going to go out of business.

The state is not being unreasonable. What is unreasonable though is to cut costs in maintenance so that pipelines leak. It is unreasonable to cover up criminal activity when they spill the stuff. It is unreasonable to bribe state lawmakers into getting a better rate, so that those dollars go directly into the shareholder's pockets. Plain and simple.

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  3     October 27, 2007 - 9:08pm | erak

Not that taxes are what matters: Its ROI relative other options

Today's WSJ had a story today. Alberta Premier Ed Stelmach said he decided to raise the total government
take -- including all federal and provincial taxes and royalties -- from 47% of revenue to between 56% and 66%, depending on the price of oil. So now, the question: is Alaska a better or worse investment for billions of investment capital? Why?

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  2     October 27, 2007 - 5:24pm | akwillis

High relative to what price? Over what period of time?

Remember when $18.00/bbl was 100% more than $9.00/bbl. Was $18.00/bbl "high"? Will $96.00/bbl seem "high" a year from now? What happened to the "exempt" auditor positions? You will need a hell of an auditor to define "high" and "dip".
Why don't we just put a legislator on a rotating basis at a steet corner near the headquarters of one of the producers. His or her mission will be to beg for revenue . Let the producers decide when we need some "spare change". I'll provide the cardboard.

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  1     October 27, 2007 - 4:07pm | black33

So...what's the money to be used for?

Missing from the debate on oil taxes is what the extra revenue is needed for. Last year, the governor proposed that nearly $3 billion in surplus be saved (in addition to existing accounts). There is even more revenue this year, and with any tax increase including a change in progressivity, there will be more again.

Meanwhile, many individual households throughout the state are struggling to pay their home energy costs each month, and their communities are facing the same challenge: increasing energy costs to heat municipal buildings and schools are impacting the ability to provide critical local services.

I would propose that 50% of any increase be put into an account to benefit Alaskans by distributions to households (possibly through a supplement to the PFD) and to local governments to offset escalating energy costs.

Without a thorough discussion, the only result of a tax increase will be a corresponding increase in the size of state government.

Is that what we want? Any ideas out there on what to do with the billions in new revenue?

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  October 28, 2007 - 6:57am | pp05416

Howse about putting

OUR money into OUR pockets? In the corporate neocon industrial world this is called a DIVIDEND.

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  October 28, 2007 - 7:16am | wasilla_blogzilla

I second the motion pp.

While your rantings generally have a liberal bias (I learnt that from Sean Hannity!) Our business partners, Big Oil, neglected to reinvest the windfall of this year into our state. Instead they go to Russia, Indonesia, South America, and the "Stan" countries and use our oil wealth to bribe locally corrupt leaders. You talk about level playing fields in those countries. HAH! Instead, keep all that dough in Alaska. Like George Bush says, "I want you to be able to choose how to spend YOUR money." Now If I got my share, I'd be puttin' an addition on my double-wide, I've promised my wife and maybe get that new Polaris six-wheeler I've been wanting for some time. No one has dared to look into how all this local money would help our economy by making new jobs, etc. Instead our "rank and file" (GWB again) legislators know only of one income source for their elections, again...you guessed it...Big Oil. It's time we made them diversify their appetites for income. I'm tired of hearing Big Oil squeal like little unweaned pigs in a poke.

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  October 28, 2007 - 7:34am | pp05416

See Blogzilla

This is one idea, if properly promoted, that will cross the entire political spectrum. The leggies have tried unsuccessfully to stifle referendum. But if they fail us again miserably we CAN overrule them at the polls. George Bush was elected in 2000 partly because he promised Americans a $300 child tax rebate. Wow, imagine if that number were 10 times that amount. Who you gonna vote for now? It'll take an expensively intense fear mongering campaign to turn that around WazzyB. Let's take the money while we can.

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  October 27, 2007 - 6:33pm | akallegro

there was discusion

albeit short about that in Senate resource. I believe it was Wielechowski that made note of the fact that the Legislature can and has taken lumps of cash and put it into the Perm Fund. Thus preserving state windfalls for future needs.

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  October 27, 2007 - 8:05pm | sgitrak

Deposits into the Perm fund is a bad idea.......

the perm fund is already $40 billion and doing fine.

What they need to do is start paying back the CBR they owe about $5 billion.

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  October 28, 2007 - 3:46pm | akallegro

no argument from me

about building the CBR back up and sending billion dollar chunks to TRS & PRS.

I just don't want to see all this work on ACES to get eaten up on growing more government.

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  October 27, 2007 - 6:15pm | Stags_Leap

what it will be used for

obviously, to cover short-falls from the deep economic recession that will certainly result from the ineptness of the Palin administration.

They can't explain anything. You will get bashed for even asking a question. This is entirely political posturing for Palin's sake. Yet another photo opportunity for the dim-witted one.

This IS A TAX. Don't let them fool you with that 6th grade rhetoric. It's of no value to us if chase off future development due to excessive tax and spend policies by the Palin Administration. I guess the Chinese may be interested.

How goes the AGIA bidding process???? This foolish hybrid PPT proposal of Palin's will fail...and we still won't have a viable gasline contract from her serious flawed AGIA. Wake up Alaska! Demand accountability...and more than juvenile rhetoric from the Palin Posse. I seriously hope you morons don't get paid for posting your pro-Palin propaganda on the Blogs.

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  October 29, 2007 - 9:20am | rfn

And please, all you anti-Stags:

STOP confusing "Democrats" with Socialists. The Socialists are far less dangerous.

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  October 29, 2007 - 9:28am | Black3

The socialists know they're socialists,

have some intellectual underpinnings, and are capable of rational thought. The Democrats are into feelings, emotional responses, and pandering.

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  October 29, 2007 - 7:19pm | gilld

Ha!

rfn and Black3.

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  October 29, 2007 - 5:06am | Stags_Leap

More Palin Propaganda Below

those are some seriously brown noses down there.

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  October 27, 2007 - 6:17pm | Lysander_Spooner

Seriously, Stags ...

... you really should get some new material.

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  October 28, 2007 - 5:13am | yours_truly

Stags is at least half right

And folks are starting to become aware of the damage Palin will do to our economy. This is not anti-Palin ravings either....this is serious.

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  October 27, 2007 - 6:23pm | Stumpy1

Agree, Lysander...

Stags just keeps flailing away with the same old rhetoric. I wonder if Mark Begich agrees with even half of Stags angry posts...

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  October 27, 2007 - 6:36pm | gilld

We Do

Stagger Lee, we do get paid for posting as the Palin Posse. Quite generously, and quite surreptitiously, of course, with payments delivered in the dead of night from black helicopters.

No, really: we do.

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  October 27, 2007 - 6:37pm | Lysander_Spooner

In fact ...

... this has a lot to do with why we need to raise oil taxes.

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  October 27, 2007 - 6:43pm | Stumpy1

What do we do with the loot?

Good question, Mr. Black.

There is a staggering amount of money at stake. Each Alaskan is selling about $35,000 dollars worth of their crude oil to Big Oil, per year, at current prices.

Of course many in the legislature believe it is OK for Big Oil to take a much bigger portion of revenues from the sale of that oil than the citizens of the state- (AKA the owners).

It is, after all, our oil.

Assuming we can reform the methodology that ensures that we receive a fair and reasonable return for the sale of our oil, we should be having a serious discussion about how that new revenue is spent.

Nobody is discussing this aspect in a substantive way- and this is an incredibly disappointing lack of leadership.

So where should the money be spent?

1. First, we have to begin paying our bills. The Democrats gave us a ten billion dollar PERS/TRS deficit. We could raise an extra billion dollars a year and it would take us ten years to just climb our of the hole if we allocated 100% of the revenue to just this one problem.

The defined benefit system was a disaster- the full implications of which we have not felt.

2. We have tremendous capital infrastructure needs. Just to be ready to build the gas pipeline we will have to spend about one billion dollars to get the roads and bridges ready for what will be the largest construction project in the USA.

3. To grow Alaska's economy we have to realize that Alaska's road system must not look like the USA did in 1825. Imagine what the USA would be like today if there was no way to drive from the East Coast to the West Coast.

That is where Alaska is today. There are vast regions of our state that are inaccessible by road.

We can not even drive to the state capitol.

How frigging stupid are we?

For tourism and mining industries to be able to grow, and help us diversify our economy away from oil, we must invest in our capital infrastructure. It is of paramount importance.

We have the most expensive state government in the country, spending $15,000 per person- with a great deal of those expenditures made on idiotic welfare programs. This spending is NOT sustainable in the long run.

We need a visionary plan to invest our new wealth in our infrastructure. Everything from new roads, to geothermal development and laying a fiber optic backbone so that Alaska can join the 21st century.

Again, great question, Mr. Black. It is a question all of our state leaders should be considering.

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  October 29, 2007 - 9:02am | chrisosowski

Invest in Infrastructure? Outstanding Idea!

Finally someone else speaking about infrastructure. Unfortunately, with the Federal Government locking up all of our economic opportunities to generate the vast amounts of funding required for such undertaking, and our meek and mild population being so accepting of those from the lower 48 gaining such popularity by branding our projects with names like "bridges to nowhere", it'll never happen anyway. The only way I see is if we could get some really competent representation in Washington who could really deliver and bring home some bacon. That's right, Ted and Don and Lisa arent even coming close. I wonder how much the cost of the interstate highway system was to cover and cross an equivilent amount of acreage as we have here in alaska? Then adjust it for inflation to get the true cost in todays dollar? Without ANWR, Tongas logging, and so on, Alaska will never be able to afford such a thing, and we might as well admit that we're pretty much as close to entering the 21st centure with respect to our ability to deliver quality health care and education opportunities to our rural areas as we'll ever be. Welfare state? We were better off as a Territory when we truly were "wards" of the Federal Government!

But you are so right, this reality dose while sobering, in no way justified the squandering of whatever income or wealth we derive from the few sources left to us by a Federal Government and opinionated general population and news media in the lower 48 who seem intent on "mothering" us to death.

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  October 28, 2007 - 6:48am | akwillis

Mr. Cremo and Mr. Hammond had the right idea........

Remember prior to 1979 when we paid income tax? Then we decided to create a permanent fund that would eventually generate sufficient revenue to eliminate the need for an income tax? As the fund return became large enough to actually pay for state government, Dr. Cremo proposed a further enhancement. His plan would raise revenue by bond sales for the first year of state spending and thereafter restrict state expenditures to whatever the permanent fund had (emphasis on "had") earned in the prior year. Payment for the "seed" bonds would have to be included in each years' budget. Governnor Hammond introduced the concept of disbursing oil revenue directly to the citizens and then forcing the government to "claw back" the funds it needed from the citizenry in the form of a tax on dividend disbursement.
Why not do both. Start the "Cremo Plan" which would limit state spending to only cash available. Also, include a PFD if the citizenry demanded from their government that spending be restricted to allow money for a PFD.

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  October 28, 2007 - 10:04am | Stumpy1

The Permanent Fund and state spending

It is hard to believe that it has been almost 30 years since the Permanent Fund was created...

The Permanent Fund is an example of what can happen when we have competent, honest, leaders engaging in strategic decision making.

What Hammond did not anticipate is just how much the legislature and his successors would increase state spending. The PF could not come close to paying for the cost of state government today. The fund would have to have closer to 400 billion- or be ten times its present size- to be able to thrown off enough revenue to pay the per capita cost of Alaska state government- of about $15,000.

Just to pay off existing liabilities would take about 30% of the corpus of the PF.

We need to fundamentally reform what programs we fund, and reorganize state government to get better efficiencies and significant cost reductions for services provided.

Would people pay attention if we obtained a fair share of the value of the sale of our oil, gave it directly to the people, and then forced the state to tax the money back?

You bet.

Here's how much the PF contains as of Oct 25, 2007:

Unaudited, as of Oct 25, 2007

US Bonds $9,482,300,000
Non-US Bonds $1,212,000,000
US Stocks $11,321,400,000
Non-US Stocks $5,603,200,000
Global Stocks $6,011,200,000
Real Estate $3,815,100,000
Alternative $2,065,300,000
Alaska CDs $198,900,000

TOTAL $39,709,400,000

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