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Do fireworks scare your dogs?

Posted by dogblog

Anchorage Daily News

Posted: June 18, 2007 - 12:40 pm

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The Fourth of July is coming up, and, like it or not, that means fireworks. This week's question is how do your dogs tolerate fireworks and other strange noises? Do they hide behind the bed? Do they bark? Do they try to run away? Or are you one of the lucky ones whose dogs ignore strange noises?

More importantly, have you successfully conditioned your dogs to tolerate noise? What did you do?

PICTURES OF THE WEEK

Love to ride, and ready to go!

Patch, background, is blind, but his buddy Abby helps him out.

Last week's theme was special-needs dogs, and Snowgoose stole the show with this great shot of Patch, her blind border collie, and Abby, the pound dog who keeps Patch company. You've gotta love the relationship between these two dogs, and the dedication this family shows to provide a great life for a blind dog.

Also, here are some runners-up in the best-of-the-rest category.
Here's Foster and the moose

Polly & Emma on the blue chair
First, there's S. Camp's pooch who loves to ride and is ready to go in a pair of doggles. I've never figured out if they're practical or for show, but this pooch sure pulls off the look. S. Camp adds that the unnamed pup always wears a seat belt in the car.

Next up is Polly & Emma maneuvering for control of the blue chair. In this shot, Emma is winning. You gotta love when dogs play nicely. Thanks, Linda.

Then there's Foster the Australian Shepherd nose-to-nose with a moose. Thankfully, there's a fence. The only name submitted with the photo was the owner of the house Foster was visiting, Virginia. I heard a rumor that moose could hop fences that size. Anybody know if there's any truth to it?

PICTURE THEME OF THE WEEK
Action shots. I know, I've held this theme before, but I want to see shots of dogs running and swimming and just being dogs. As usual, the theme ends after the first update of the gallery on Mondays.
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6 January 23, 2009 - 3:25am | z7mh

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5 August 18, 2007 - 11:41am | dogblog

Personal attacks

I deleted a couple comments on this topic today because I felt they offered unfair personal attacks on one of the visitors to the blog.

This blog is for exchanging ideas on dogs, and while we are all open to criticism for our opinions, the criticism should be limited to blog comments.

August 20, 2007 - 10:40am | brianscheff

Personal Attacks

I wanted to respond to a blog posted on this site about Robin Scheff the Mobile Dog Trainer. There were some very derogatory remarks made and I wanted to try and set the record straight. The person making these remarks claimed to have known Robin for 10 years and made it seem that she had not owned a dog during that time and that she was unemployed most of that time.

Well it’s apparent that this person either doesn’t know Robin at all or at most knows her in passing. I have personally known her for 46 years and can say that in that entire time she has rarely been without a dog and I don’t believe there has been any time when she hasn’t been involved with the care of animals either through ownership, as an ongoing activity or on a professional basis. This person didn’t talk about Robin being an accomplished horse woman as a teenager. They didn’t talk about how she used to rescue small animals in the woods of Virginia as a child. They didn’t talk about her extensive dog training experience that was started in her twenties but continued well into her thirties and has been resurrected in the last several years. They didn’t talk about the extensive research she has done in dog training techniques. They didn’t talk about how she has single handedly raised her daughter to be a wonderful young woman after they were deserted by her Father. They didn’t talk about all the sacrifices Robin has made over the years to keep her family strong. They certainly didn’t talk about how she quit a lucrative job in Alaska and moved to Florida for a year to care for her Father and her Mother who languished in a coma for 9 of those 12 months. They didn’t talk about how she returned to Alaska with out a penny in her pocket and started the Mobile Dog Training business with absolutely no assistance from anyone. They didn’t talk about her intense desire to return what she loved most and what she has always been the best at. They didn’t talk about the countless success stories and thankful dog owners she has helped over the last year or so.

No! Instead of really trying to understand the situation this supposed expert on Robin did some cursory research and tried to discredit her in the basest way. It certainly doesn’t surprise me that the posting was anonymous. Most people that want to cast stones don’t want to be identified for fear they might be looked at with the same critical eye they cast upon their victims. The problem with blogs is anyone can post any information they want whether it’s fact or fiction which in the case of the posting I am responding to is nothing but mean spirited fiction from a person with a cruel heart and a hidden agenda of some kind. People like this are cowards of the worst sort.

I know all these wonderful things about Robin because she’s my sister. Although we have not always been close and disagree on a multitude of different issues, I can assure you that Robin is as truthful and hard working as any one I have ever met. Now as her Brother I’m sure people might think I’m biased and to a certain degree I am. However, I am not inclined to come to her defense very often. She is more than capable of taking care of herself. I want to reiterate that she and I rarely see eye to eye. I even acknowledge she has made many mistakes in her life but who hasn’t. I challenge the person making these aspersions to show themselves and allow me to do a little research to see if I can turn up some of their mistakes. I’d be willing to bet that by comparison Robin would come out smelling like a rose. She has gained my un-wavering respect for pulling herself up by the boot straps and developing a successful business to provide for herself and my niece. She also ascended to sainthood in my book for the unbelievable way she cared for my Mother during her final time here on earth. Anyone would be lucky to have my big sister caring for and training their dog.

Anyone who has a different opinion is welcome to contact me personally and I’ll be happy to set them straight in the light of day where every one can know who’s saying what and for what reason. My e-mail address is brianscheff@hotmail.com. I should fore warn you though. Any anonymous e-mails will be promptly deleted and dismissed as irrelevant. If you’re not willing to stand up and take credit for what you say no one should be willing to listen to you!

September 3, 2008 - 8:45pm | nospin

GIVE ME A BREAK!

Your now in the no spin zone! While you defense of your sibling was touching and admirable, let me give it to you straight. I have had first hand experience with the self proclaimed "Dog Whisperer" and believe me she's no Cesar Milan! She has absolutely no clue on how to
properly train a dog! One would have to be extremely desperate or stupid to use this service. This is the biggest scam going in anchorage and I'll leave it at that!

August 21, 2007 - 8:00am | krunch54

Brian,
I don't know about everyone else on this site, but I would hazard a good bet that Robin has more fans and admirers around town than she could shake a stick at! I appreciate your heartfelt support for her. Just don't worry too much about cowardly postings. I met Robin once and instantly knew she deserved respect for the knowledge and expertise she brought to the table. She has helped all of us "regulars" with her advice at one time or another. When I get re-settled one of these days, I want to hire her to get some doggie issues taken care of. Thanks for the support of your sister. She's our sister too!!
Steve Kreinbrink

August 21, 2007 - 4:16pm | robinscheff

Wow. I feel very humbled and grateful

Thanks Krunch. My brother gave me some good advice and I let it go. So, my brother's post surprised me, and I've told him several times how much I appreciated his support. He said things in the post he's never vocalized, so it was pretty special.

Your post is also a pleasant surprise. Thank you. I just passed the one year anniversary of Mobile Dog Trainer on August 19th. It's been quite an amazing year thanks to all of the dogs and dog owners in Alaska, this blog, the Zoo gig, and the Daily News exposure. This blog has been great. There are some very knowledgeable, long time dog owners that visit the blog frequently. I'm so grateful to Mike that he opened this forum.

Thanks again Krunch. I really don't have words to express my sincere gratitude for your support as well.
Robin
Mobile Dog Trainer

4 August 15, 2007 - 6:58pm | luceyinak

I adopted a very active 6 month female border collie and am looking for a class to put her in. We are still working on manners and housebreaking. If any one has suggestions please help.

August 29, 2007 - 1:28pm | purplepanther3579

I have a basic obedience class starting on Wednesday sept 5th. please contact me for more info.

Sonya Smiley
Purple Panther Dog Training
purplepanther3579@yahoo.com

3 June 20, 2007 - 7:55pm | snowgoose

Doggles can be "just for fun" but they are also VERY useful. Dogs who love to ride in cars with their heads out the window do sometimes end up with eye injuries due to debrie and/or bugs hitting their eyes. Doggles could help avoid this problem.

Patch has a pair of Doggles, too. They can be extremely valuable for a blind dog. We thought they would be helpful after first reading about them a couple of years ago (and they WOULD if we could only convince Patch to wear them!) when he wanders off into the brush and bushes at the sides of our driveway. Without sight, he is way too vulnerable to twigs and other pokey things injuring his eyes - he doesn't see them, so doesn't know to blink or close his eyes.

We ARE working on this and expect him to be wearing his Doggles by winter (fingers crossed).

I'd like to hear from the Golden's owner to hear how they taught that dog to wear the Doggles. Patch is just too good with his front paws - he uses them like hands and just wipes the Doggles back off as soon as we put them on him. Sheesh.

We'll keep working on it.
-Snowgoose & the gang

2 June 18, 2007 - 4:48pm | dogblog

Afraid of fireworks

Maybe it's just a little-dog thing, and I wouldn't be surprised if you guys are getting tired of my little-dog stories :), but one of my Yorkies is terrified of strange noises.

Fireworks are the worst, and it's been that way since he was a pup. He doesn't have to see them. He doesn't have to be outside. But if one pops off in the backyard, he's under the bed, shaking like a leaf.

He did have a traumatic experience as a 2-year-old. Fireworks scared him and he ran away from the dogsitter and was gone for five hours in the middle of the night. Thankfully, he found his way home. But that wasn't the start of the trauma. He'd been that way since his first Fourth of July.

I've tried distracting him. No help. I've sat him with me and given him his favorite treat every time one popped off. Nope. He just wanted to hide.

I read on one Web site that fear of noises like that is genetic for some dogs. You can NEVER condition them to accept it. Some vets prescribe medication.

I wish there were an alternative. We'll be gone this year on the Fourth, and the dogsitter who was watching him the year he ran away will be watching him again. Ugh.

For what it's worth, most unexpected noises scare him. He's also afraid of the banging the teeter makes in agility class. He will be flawless in all the exercises, but if a big dog bangs over the teeter, he's comatose. He ran in the tunnel and hid last week.

Oh, and my other Yorkie, the 11-year-old, doesn't mind the noise at all.

Any advice?

June 19, 2007 - 7:54am | riverlee

I can sympathize

I wish I had some advice for you, and me, too, but hopefully some of the other bloggers will have some. Right now I can only sympathize with you and your 2 yr. old Yorkie.

My Springer, Teddy, also known as "Big T," is terrified of all noises like that, just as your Yorkie is. Although he is 70 lbs. he runs and tries to get up in my lap. I really feel sorry for him, because I don't like fireworks, either. I know, I know, it's absolutely unAmerican to not like fireworks, but okay, I'm finally "out" with it.

I guess Teddy would definitely not make a good gun dog, like Springers were bred for. But just as in the case with your Yorkies, our other Springer doesn't give a hoot and simply ignores loud noises.

I know there are dog tranquilizers available for very terrorized dogs, but I don't want to go there yet. I just let Teddy get on my lap and I hold him and tell him it's okay. He doesn't try to hide.

I'm not looking forward to the 4th and it would be nice if we weren't here. I hope your little Yorkie is safe while you are gone.

June 25, 2007 - 2:34pm | purplepanther3579

one comment i have to make here, for those of you who have dogs afraid of loud noises, DO NOT CODDLE THESE DOGS. when you allow them into your lap and tell them it is ok you are telling them it is ok to be afraid. try distracting them with their favorite game, toy or treat. or just ignore them but in a safe way.

put them in a crate ahead of time. play loud music or tv during the fire works.

to get them adjusted to them ahead of time start playing the noise real low during feeding time or play time and as they get used to it slowly turn up the volume.

If you need more help I can help you just contact me.

sonya

June 25, 2007 - 4:07pm | riverlee

Thank you, Sonya, for shedding some new light on this subject. One thing I've learned in life is to never be afraid to change my mind about something, or consider a new approach. That's why I value this blog so much.

I don't know if this subject of firecrackers scaring dogs has brought the greatest number of comments, but if not, it sure has to come close. A lot of experienced and knowledgeable people have weighed in with excellent advice, to try and help others of us, and our dogs, to have happy lives together, free of fear.

Sometimes it's hard for us to realize that the way we respond to our dog's behavior isn't necessarily good for the dog. We think it is, but in actuality it's not. So a new approach can be to both our benefit and the dogs'.

Having a multiple dog household that sometimes gets chaotic, I've been reading two small excellent books by Patricia B. McConnell: "How to be the Leader of the Pack and Have Your Dog Love You for it" and "Feeling Outnumbered? How to Manage and Enjoy Your Multi-dog Household." Besides never being afraid to change my mind, I'm also never afraid to learn new things.

We all love our dogs or we wouldn't be here on this blog sharing problems, stories, and advice. This firecracker subject has turned into a rather serious subject, and I'm so glad we have a new, lighter subject this week.

Thank you to all who have posted.

September 2, 2007 - 7:43am | robinscheff

I've been reading some really great books...

Take a look at 'The Dog Listener', '101 Dog Tricks', and 'The Loved Dog' These books are all written by women who are experts in dog behavior, and the books are just brilliant. 'The Dog Listener' is written by this English woman who begins the whole thing telling of a failure that still haunts her today. It is so well written, and funny. The book '101 Dog Tricks' is full of bright color photos and is just a wonderful, fun book I'm recommending to all my clients. 'The Loved Dog' is written by an Israeli woman who used to be in the Israeli Secret Service and worked in the canine units. It was so horrible what was being done to the dogs that she couldn't take it, and knew there had to be a better way. She studied the wolves in the deserts, and has come up with her own method of training dogs. It really is wonderful, even though I don't totally agree with some of what she does, but you know what, there are sooooo many ways to work with dogs, I figure I should at least try some of her stuff, so I've been using it, and it works. These 3 books are really good and worth a look.
Sincerely,
Robin Scheff - Mobile Dog Trainer

September 4, 2007 - 10:29pm | dogblog

Dog books! Great idea for a weekly topic. I'm going to do that next week and have people suggest their favorites. I'll republish this one of yours, Robin, on the new topic.

September 4, 2007 - 2:19pm | purplepanther3579

Do you have the authors of these books? It makes it easier for us to look them up if we have the name of the book and the writer.

Thanks for the suggestions I am always looking for new books to read, and stuff to learn. some I incorporate into my dog training others like you I disregard.

Sonya Smiley
Purple Panther Dog Training
purplepanther3579@yahoo.com

September 6, 2007 - 9:58am | riverlee

I get all my books from Amazon.com. You can just click on books and enter the title, and it will search for the book and bring it up. Besides the new books they sell, almost every book will list other sellers who sell used versions at a small price. Once the book you're looking for comes up on the page, Amazon also lists other books on dogs the "you may be interested in."

September 5, 2007 - 9:59pm | robinscheff

I keep all my books in my office, oops, I mean my car!

I don't have a garage like some people and my car is outside with all my dog books in it. I read them throughout the day, or whenever I have a free half hour or so. I mark all over them, and they are very personal to me. I don't know the names of the authors Sonya, and I often get in so late I just stagger into my house, fix food for all the creatures (including my wonderful daughter), do laundry, clean dishes, mop floors, and fall into my bed. I used to try and read these books in bed but now I wouldn't get past the first two sentences. So I don't have the authors' names, I'm sorry, and try as I might, I probably won't remember to bring the books into the house tomorrow, or write down their author's names. I wish I could make a promise to get this for you, but Sonya, I have some form of 'canine dementia' and feel very lucky to remember to get matching socks on in the morning (I was going to say 'to remember to put my bra on' but thought that was a bit too vulgar :o) Boy, I'm tired. At my last client I jammed my right pinky finger on the dog, by accident (the dog leapt into me and my finger was just 'there'), and dang it's hurting, and just when my left pinky was finally beginning to feel normal again! Dang!

September 2, 2007 - 9:59am | riverlee

The Dog Listener

Thanks, Robin. I do have "The Dog Listener" and agree it's very good.

June 20, 2007 - 7:44pm | snowgoose

dogs and fireworks

With 4th of July right around the corner, I know a lot of animal owners are concerned about this topic. I don't know any magic cures either. I can only suggest you take every precaution to make sure that a dog (or cat or whatever) afraid of loud noises and/or fireworks is kept SAFE.

A fear reaction can't always be controlled. What happens when the dog is frightened DOES need to be within your control. Don't allow them outside - even in a fenced yard - except on a leash if there is a chance of a fear response. I would crate them if people are going in and out doors during this time. A frightened dog can slip outside SO quickly. :(

My current dogs (yes, all of them) are unconcerned about loud noises. The Pyrs are a little more diligent in their fence "rounds" during thunderstorms (I think the electricity in the air may worry them), but they don't seem at all worried about the actual noise. The other dogs don't seem to notice it at all most of the time.

The thunderstorm and lightning last night was quite a show - and I had to take Abby, (blind) Patch and tiny Pocket outside to "empty" them right during the height of it (it was bed time). Had any of them been concerned, I would have taken them one at a time - and all on leashes, no matter how well trained they are.

As it is, all they did when a huge lightning bolt came slashing down, followed almost immediately by a LOUD BOOM of thunder ... was to stop peeing for a few seconds to watch. (smile)

OTOH, many years ago I had a Golden Retriever who was terrified of loud noises - and 4th of July was torture for him. I never found a cure (and he lived to be twelve years old), but I found a way to help calm him somewhat.

"Khaki " was crate trained as a puppy - as all my dogs are. I highly recommend it for anyone with dogs. He saw his crate as his "safe place" his whole life. Fireworks and thunder storms always traumatized him - he would shake and hide, just as you all describe. No amount of reassuring on our part did any good at all. Besides, we weren't always HOME when a storm happened, and I hated thinking of him home alone and afraid.

We taught "Khaki" to automatically seek his crate (by teaching him "Go to bed") when he was frightened instead of looking for us or running around knocking things over in a panic. He was calmed by being in his crate (a place he already felt secure and was where we usually ended up putting him during the 4th of July fireworks anyway) and we knew he could find some comfort there even if we weren't home to help.

It wasn't a perfect solution, but it was better than nothing. Any other suggestions out there?

Btw, our blind border collie, Patch, regularly seeks out his crate even now if he is feeling insecure or just wants quiet time (although loud noise is not a problem for him). He knows right where to find it and its obvious he does find comfort in its familiar surroundings even though the door is open. This is not a bad option, all things considered.
-Snowgoose & the gang

June 21, 2007 - 9:44am | dogblog

Thanks for the helpful post. I hadn't considered leashing in the backyard. Too obvious! But I'm definitely going to make that a rule on the 4th. In fact, leash everywhere.

June 21, 2007 - 11:10am | snowgoose

I've just talked to too many dog owners whose beloved pets have gone over (or through) fences (even high ones) or doors during a panic attack. You know how adrenaline can affect a human in an emergency situation? They've been known to lift cars off people - just think what an adrenaline rush due to fear could enable a dog to do. Safety first and last.

Also, as a goat owner (g), I am aware of what a rush of SPEED an animal can put on when it is frightened (chased by a stray dog or whatever). They can potentially hurt themselves in a blind panic before you have a chance to respond. Your dog can be just as quick - and catching a speeding, frightened dog can be next to impossible. :(
-Snowgoose & the gang

June 19, 2007 - 10:43am | dogblog

I think it's payback for all the firecrackers I used to pop off illegally in California as a kid. I've got a neighbor who pops them off in the backyard, and they light up our yard too. I don't even like letting the boys out to pee once the fireworks start.

I've been poking around the Internet looking for advice. There are certainly no magic cures, but some sites are better than others. This one has a decent Do and Don't checklist.

Advice for fireworks

June 19, 2007 - 2:41pm | riverlee

okay, went to that site

I did go to that site and you are right, it has a lot of sensible do's and don'ts for dogs afraid of fireworks. I just have to respond to the "don't" where it says "do not fuss or try to reassure your dog when he is frightened, as this rewards the fear behavior and will encourage him to repeat it." I guess that is exactly what I've been doing. But having a confident pal around hasn't really helped, either. I feel okay letting him on my lap and reassuring him, even if, as the site says, it may reward fear behavior.

A lot of people say it boils down to socializing the puppy to every kind of noise and people and everything you can think of. I know this is good advice. All of our dogs are afraid of little kids! The kids' quick and erratic movements scare the dogs. So since we don't have kids, I realize I didn't do a good enough job seeking out these situations with them. But I wonder...because our little Rosie who has no fear of loud noises, and who loves children, was raised exactly the same way. So what does that tell us? Maybe, that it's simply a predisposition in their personality, and not the fault of the owner not socializing enough.

So what do our other bloggers think of the personality of their dogs over riding the socializing factor? Answers should be interesting.

June 20, 2007 - 1:21am | dogblog

jarnold's link is

jarnold's link is interesting. It says a the most important conditioning and socialization should take place within weeks of birth. That sure makes me appreciate professional breeders. It's nice to know the good ones think of that stuff.

Since that obviously didn't happen in my dog's case, it leaves me scratching my head. What to do now? I don't want to resort to drugs. But I also cringe at the thought of trying to condition him to something that brings on trauma. Should I deliberately scare him with fireworks to show him that they're safe? It sounds risky without the supervision of a behaviorist.

June 20, 2007 - 11:45am | krunch54

calming their fears

When my pups are scared of something, I comfort them as much as I can using a calm voice and saying, "It's OK, just calm down." I pet them and hug them and they're OK in a short amount of time. I don't think any form of tough love is appropriate when they're scared. They look to us for comfort and protection. If I'm spoiling them, well, that's OK with me. What they return to me with their unconditional love and companionship is 100 times as gratifying as what I do for them.

June 24, 2007 - 8:20pm | robinscheff

Comforting dogs during stressful moments

Hey Krunch,
Helping your dogs to relax mentally in the presence of something that spooks them normally is not tough love. I don't think this is what Cesar Milan is doing with the dogs he works with, nor am I. Even though the dogs I work with are not mine, I have tremendous compassion for them and feel sorry for them that their owners often really don't understand them at all, and never will. Sometimes something is so big and scary to the dog (something really harmless - but not in the dog's mind) that the owner and trainer need to step way back and start with a much lower, less scary version of whatever the dog thinks is frightening. For instance, loud, sharp popping sounds of firecrackers. If a person knows their dogs are afraid of firecracker sounds, and have trauma every 4th of July, then start working with the dogs way before the 4th of July to help them stay calmer when they hear these sounds. This is a long training process that the owner needs to start the year before. Getting the dog used to much quieter and softer sounding popping sounds, and slowly increasing the intensity over time is one way of doing this. Staying quiet, calm, and relaxed during this training when the dog may be feeling anxious is the greatest gift you can give your dog when he is in this mental state. There is a method to doing this type of training, and it isn't 'tough love' where the dog is just thrown into a room full of firecrackers and kept in there until he either dies from a heart attack, goes into shock and dies, or becomes acclimated to the firecrackers. Really loving your dogs like you do means helping them to calm themselves down in the presence of something they used to be afraid of. The problem is, a lot of owners (not you Krunch) are addicted to being able to 'comfort' their 'babies' and soothe them. This is satisfying emotional needs the owner has, but not really helping the dog to get past this phobia. Helping the dog to feel more confident and calm in previously stressful situations is real love, selfless love for the dog and his needs.
Trying the only way you know to comfort your dogs when they are afraid is completely normal, and the dogs know you love them Krunch. However, there is another way to help your dogs live bigger, fuller, happier, and calmer lives. Dogs look to us for leadership. Good leadership is more important, more comforting, and makes dogs feel more protected and safe in their lives, then anything else you give. Good, calm, assertive leadership is what all of our dogs are looking for and needing more than anything else.
Sincerely,
Robin Scheff
Mobile Dog Trainer

June 26, 2007 - 7:13am | krunch54

Thanks, Robin for the time you spent imparting your wisdom on us. What I meant about not using tough love is that I would not go out of my way to submit my pups to loud noises such as fireworks to get them used to it. I have no plans on training them as hunting dogs, in which case I would have to get them used to gunfire, but it's a moot point... I will keep them inside around the 4th with the tv on and ... WAIT!! I live in Anchorage and fireworks are ILLEGAL here, and NO ONE would DARE break the law, right? (wink, wink!)

June 26, 2007 - 8:08pm | robinscheff

No fireworks in Anchorage? Say wha...?

Hey, I'm cool with whatever dog owners want to do with their dogs as long as the underlying motivation is love and concern, and the owners can keep their dogs safe. When my daughter was just a toddler, her favorite story was about this little terrier-type dog that somehow got out during the New Years Eve fireworks in the neighborhood and the family couldn't find her. Of course, since it was a child's book, it ended really nicely with a kindly lady and her Doberman finding the little dog shivering and shaking as much from fear as cold, and taking her in for the night. If people aren't into working on this issue with their dogs, it's cool. I kinda can't help myself in this area Krunch. My mind is always working on how to solve some behavior issue or help some dog overcome something that keeps their lives small and uninteresting. I bore my daughter senseless talking about it all the time, and recounting stuff I've just read or seen. It's why I do what I do I guess. Happy Sunny Tuesday.
Robin - Mobile Dog Trainer

June 26, 2007 - 3:01pm | riverlee

Excellent viewpoint, Krunch

Very insightful, for sure. Thanks for getting right to the heart of the matter, picking out what is most meaningful, and doing it with a spirit lifting touch of humor. As my reply to Sonja, above, said, I have already had a complete turnaround in my thinking regarding this.

So bravo to you, Krunch! And a big thank you for helping me get to the most important parts of the problem, and presenting them in the most delightful way.

June 20, 2007 - 4:30pm | riverlee

You are so right

Thanks. I agree with you 100%. I, too, agree there's no reason for "tough love." As long as my dog finds comfort by being on my lap and being talked to calmly, and it's fine with me, I don't see any reason to attempt conditioning him to loud noises when it may be traumatic. I think we have to do what's right for us.

I have enjoyed hearing if other dog owners have this problem and how they deal with it. It's very interesting. The one thing I am a bit worried about, though, is dogblog leaving his Yorkie over the 4th with the person who was caretaking before and the little Yorkie got scared and ran away.

I realize, dogblog, by saying this, I am probably making things worse for you and I do apologize. I don't mean to lay any more stress on you, worrying if your little guy will be okay while you are gone. I just hope the person taking care of him remembers what happened before and takes precautions for his safety.

June 24, 2007 - 8:36pm | robinscheff

This is why it is important to help our dogs overcome their fear

By helping our dogs relax and feel less threatened and afraid, even if we aren't present, we do ourselves and the dogs a great favor. Yes, it may be a little tough to do the work needed to help our dogs overcome their fears, and maybe it's easier to just hold their little, shivering bodies and temporarily 'comfort' them, but the trainers are all correct in saying that petting the dogs, and allowing them to sit on us, and giving them treats when they are in a very excited state of mind is not good for the dogs in the long run. It is good for the humans, sometimes, but often inhibits many owners from enjoying a holiday for fear the dog will experience too much trauma, run away, or hurt themselves somehow when we gone, out living our lives and maybe even having fun on the 4th without our dogs. Working through these issues with your dogs allow the dogs to live more calmly and relaxed, and enjoy their lives more, without fear of popping of firecrackers coming to get them.
Sincerely,
Robin Scheff
Mobile Dog Trainer

June 25, 2007 - 8:40am | riverlee

All I can say is, owch!

Backing up a little to your reply to Krunch, you suggest that owners who calm their dogs are only being selfish and doing it for themselves, and not helping the dogs at all, and also that you "feel sorry" for dogs whose owners don't understand them as you do. You said you weren't talking about Krunch. Okay, then who were you talking about? Dog owners in general? Me?

Well, all I can say to those professional opinions is a big owch! I never realized I was being so selfish. You have a wonderful way with dogs, but with people? I'm not so sure.

So it's back to "Dogs 101 for Dummies" for me.

June 27, 2007 - 12:14am | robinscheff

owch? I don't get it.

I calm dogs in a very different, more dog-like way Riverlee, which does not reinforce the dogs fears and anxieties about the harmless popping sounds he/she hears. Trying to ease a dog's anxiety level under stressful situations is what I do all day long. I didn't say that trying to calm a dog was selfish. I said that holding a dog like a human child and trying to soothe it in the way many humans try to soothe or calm a dog is actually reinforcing a mental state in the dog and doing the opposite of what you want to do. It may appear, at times, that using this technique is working, but if it really worked, the dog would no longer have this fear in the future. It is a temporary fix, and not helping the dog in the long run of his/her life. And, yes, I was talking about dog owners 'in general. Not many dog owners 'in general' take the time to actually study canine psychology as I have by exhaustive reading, committed observation and exposure to thousands upon thousands of dogs, both individual and in packs, over 30+ years, and going to seminar after seminar all over the country held by many of the canine authorities with published books in Barnes and Noble and other book stores around the world. I feel very strongly that when people impose human psychology on their dogs, and give them human attributes, that they do not understand their dogs at all, and very possibly never will. Many owners, and you may be one, want to stay with what they 'know' and what is easier, which is their option. I can't change the world of dog owners. I can only change those who are open minded and willing to try something out of their comfort zone. There is no need to come at me like that Riverlee. I have certainly earned the right to express my 'professional' opinions here on this blog without being attacked by fellow bloggers.

June 27, 2007 - 5:39am | riverlee

No one is attacking you,

No one is attacking you, Robin. I am sorry if my post gave you that impression. I was only berating myself for my ignorance. Note: "Dogs 101 for Dummies."

The whole community loves, appreciates and respects you.

I feel so emotionally exhausted from this subject, I'll be happy when we can all move on. But I'd like to pass along something else I've come to realize about this blog, and that is we must be careful of what we write and choose our words wisely. We should think before we speak. Because we only have a short little period of time, a matter of hours really, when we are allowed to go back and edit what we said. Otherwise, the words are there forever and cannot be taken back. People we don't even know could be reading them somewhere on the internet years from now. As dogblog explained, there is a written record being made every day, with questions and answers and stories and sharing of our love for dogs.

It is always a good day for the dog blog when you find a few spare moments in your busy life to help the rest of us. Your thoughts are appreciated and respected. And by the way, if you would read my reply to Sonya, Purple Panther, up above, you will see that my own thoughts have changed dramatically on this subject, and I am not one of the people you mention who is afraid to get out of my "comfort zone."

dogblog: where are you? We're just floundering around out here.

June 27, 2007 - 9:47am | dogblog

Ha ha. You don't need me.

Ha ha. You don't need me. I think you handled that beautifully!

I've been a member of a couple online dog forums for more than two years now, and I'm always amazed at how easily things can get blown out of proportion and feelings can get hurt online. I think everyone posting here has good intentions, and in person I think we would all get along great. But online communication is missing the winks and nods and smiles and other body language that reassure us that people we're talking to have good intentions.

Again, I think everyone involved in this little miscommunication handled it beautifully. Nobody hid their feelings and no one flew off the handle. Thanks.

The following link is an annoyingly long article about online communication. If you ever have some time to kill, I think it's required reading for anyone who communicates on the Internet.

http://www.rider.edu/~suler/psycyber/conflict.html

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