If the mayor’s proposed 4th Avenue Theater deal heads back before the Assembly Tuesday, how would the Assembly vote?
“It’s going to be kind of close,” said Chairman Dan Sullivan, who plans to vote against it.
“I think it may have the votes to pass, but I think if more information comes out over the next week, maybe some people will give it a second thought,” he said.
In a phone interview today, Mayor Mark Begich said that if the deal failed at the Assembly, he would still pursue some kind of historical easement for the theater -- meaning it couldn't be torn down.
Meantime, Assemblyman Chris Birch asked the city for more details on the deal in an e-mail exchange with Chief Fiscal Officer Jeff Sinz.
Here are the questions Birch asked (he said they came from a constituent), followed by Sinz responses.
The questions are in italics, and the e-mails are dated Dec. 23.
1. Is it true that the current owner has been two years behind in taxes but the city has taken no action toward having the property foreclosed on? If so, why not? Is this owner being treated with extraordinary lenience?
The property is about 1 1/2 years delinquent on its property taxes. The MOA is pursuing all legally available means of collecting the delinquent taxes including statutory foreclosure for delinquent taxes. The owner is being treated exactly like all other owners with 2005 delinquent taxes. More specifically:
Property taxes for the 4th Avenue Theater are delinquent for 2005 and 2006. They became delinquent on June 15 and August 15, 2005 when the first and second half property taxes were due. The MOA is actively pursuing the tax foreclosure process as specified by State Law (Title 29) and the MOA Code. This includes the 4th Avenue Theater and all other properties with 2005 delinquent taxes. The MOA recorded liens on all properties with delinquent 2005 taxes in February 2006. All such properties were then listed in a publication appearing in the Alaska Journal of Commerce in late February 2006. Before taking further action, the MOA must wait for completion of a one-year redemption period as required by State Law. The redemption period will end in February 2007. The MOA will take deed on all properties still having delinquent 2005 taxes, in April of 2007. Each and every step in this almost two-year long tax foreclosure process is specified and required by State Law. Again, the 4th Avenue Theater has been included in every step and its owner treated like every other with delinquent 2005 property taxes.
2. Why shouldn't the city, as a good steward of public funds, file a tax lien, have the property foreclosed on, and then arrange a deal to buy the property at foreclosure instead of at a price that appears to be much higher then actual market value? What future potential liabilities will the city (ie, taxpayer) be stuck with? Code upgrades? Possible asbestos issues?
As stated above, the MOA did record a tax lien on the 4th Avenue Theater in February 2006. The MOA was planning to take deed to the property through a tax foreclosure if the delinquent taxes remain unpaid as of April 2007. However, from a practical perspective the MOA will never be in a position to complete a tax foreclosure on the 4th Avenue Theater.
The Theater has recently (within the last month) been valued by an independent fee appraiser at $3.7 million. Northrim Bank holds a deed of trust on the property as security for loans to the property owner (Gottstein) of approximately $4 million. As necessary, the bank will pay the tax related delinquency, totaling less than 2% of the property’s value, in order to protect its security interest in the Theater.
In fact, negotiations for the purchase of the 4th Avenue Theater took place with Northrim Bank, not Robert Gottstein, because of its interest in the outcome and its own pending foreclosure action. If necessary, the Bank intended to pay the tax related delinquency and foreclose on its deed of trust. However, the bank preferred not to take title to the property through foreclosure. It preferred to instead broker a deal between the buyer and Robert Gottstein because of tax benefits to the Bank associated with this approach.
We believe that the price negotiated with Northrim Bank and approved by Mr. Gottstein, is substantially below the market value. Because Mr. Gottstein is required to contribute $600,000 back to the project, the $3.4 million purchase price can actually be thought of a costing the project no more than $2.8 million. This figure compares very favorably with the $3.7 million appraised value. The higher purchase price combined with the flow of Mr. Gottstein’s $600,000 contribution through the Anchorage Community Development Authority are expected to increase the value of the income tax credits increasing the funding available for necessary renovations of the Theater.
Finally, both the lender (Northrim) and owner (Gottstein) were motivated to get a deal done and we have no reason to believe that a better deal could have been negotiated with Northrim as the post foreclosure owner of the property.
3. Is it true that the municipal assessment, which is supposed to be a fairly accurate estimate of actual value, is about 1.7 million, but the property is proposed to be sold for about 2.9 million? If so, why is it being sold for so much? If 2.9 million is a real market value, why has it been so grossly under assessed which has resulted in saving substantial taxes for the owner?
Yes that is generally true. According to the Municipal Assessor, the MOA assessment was heavily impacted by use of the "income approach" of valuation which used actual income statements provided by the owner/operator. They indicated that the facility was loosing money. This approach and situation had a negative impact of the Municipal Assessment, but arguably appropriately reflected the experience of the private owner/operator. The income approach is one of several methods used by the Assessor to determine the full and true value for taxation purposes. Others assessment methods are "cost" and "replacement value." When information is available, the Assessor will consider all three methods to determine a property's full and true value.
It should also be pointed out that one operator’s experience does not necessarily reflect the market potential of a commercial property, but can appropriately be used to establish the assessed value for taxation purposes for a particular commercial owner/operator.
It is now expected that the property can and will be operated profitably when managed and operated by different entity with the ability to benefit from a lower debt load, increased revenue generation capability and lower operating costs due to economies of scale and synergies with other similar facilities. This situation was not reflected in the Assessor's earlier valuation. Had the private operator been able to operate at a profit, the Assessor's value would have been adjusted upward.
4. The owner, as I understand it, is donating $600,000 for the deal. Sounds good, but if he's got $600,000, why hasn't he paid his taxes? Or is the $600K only becoming available from the sale of the property?
We believe that the owner is paying the $600,000 out of proceeds available at close. As stated earlier, this particular flow of funds is preferable because it is expected to help maximize the value of the tax credits generated and therefore increase the funding available for needed facility renovations.


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flag this »5 January 21, 2007 - 9:11am | cnmslack
Profit?
"We believe that the owner is paying the $600,000 out of proceeds available at close."
obviously, at least a 600k bail out here.
flag this »4 January 19, 2007 - 11:27am | leslie_ridle
Answers to some of the questions
I know they're kind of late. My co-workers are very dedicated but they're also working on about 100 different projects on any given week. They're human.
The Mayor has answered some of these questions throughout the blog as well.
A reminder to those who have an opinion on this matter--there is a public hearing on Tuesday. We think around 6:30. It's not an exact science guessing when it will come up. The Assembly will be taking public testimony. This is not a "done deal" regardless of what you might think. There will still be a vote and Assembly members are probably still making up their minds. You should also consider sending them an email over the weekend if you can't get to the meeting.
I hope everyone has a good weeekend. Leslie
1. Did Gottstein get a loan before last April’s vote?
Per the public record of the State Recorder’s Office, a Deed of Trust was recorded against the 4th Avenue Theatre property on February 13, 2006 for $1,116,850.00 and another was recorded on March 31, 2006 for $975,000.00.
2. Did Gottstein profit on this deal?
That is unknown since there are not public records of profits. However, the Purchase and Sale Agreement provides that the entire purchase price be used to satisfy lien holders or fulfill the seller’s obligations under the Agreement.
3. Was City money used in this purchase?
No Municipal tax dollars will be used for purchase of the Theater. $250,000 of previously designated historic preservation funds, originally received by State grant, will be contributed to the project. This is a small contribution in the context of a $5.4 million purchase and renovation package.
4. Are there documents that show the MOA will never pay for the loan or the building or the employees?
Documents related to the financing of the transaction and to the assignment of all rights and responsibilities from the MOA to a single-purpose entity, the 4th Avenue Theater, LLC, will clearly show that the MOA has no role in or responsibility for loan repayment and retains no responsibility for the building or employees.
5. What happens if the revenues don’t cover taxes, utilities, etc.?
The Community Development Entity (National Development Council) will hold the deed of trust. If revenues are insufficient to support the Theater, the Theater will close its doors and creditors will pursue their interests through the deed of trust.
6. Is Gottstein 2 years behind in taxes? If so, what was the resolution to that issue?
Property taxes are currently 1½ years delinquent and will be brought current by the seller in the property escrow closing transaction.
7. If he was behind, why didn’t the MOA foreclose?
The MOA is pursuing all legally available means of collecting the delinquent taxes and is currently in the process of foreclosing on the property. More specifically:
Property taxes for the 4th Avenue Theater are delinquent for 2005 and 2006. The 2005 real property taxes became delinquent on June 15 and August 15, 2005 when the first and second half property taxes were due. The MOA is actively pursuing the tax foreclosure process as specified by State Law (Title 29) and the MOA Code. This includes the 4th Avenue Theater and all other properties with 2005 delinquent taxes. The MOA recorded liens on all properties with delinquent 2005 taxes in February 2006. All such properties were then listed in a publication appearing in the Alaska Journal of Commerce in late February 2006. Before taking further action, the MOA must wait for completion of a one-year redemption period as required by State Law. The redemption period will end in February 2007. The MOA will take deed on all properties still having delinquent 2005 taxes, in April of 2007. Each step in this almost two-year tax foreclosure process is specified in and required by State Law. Again, the 4th Avenue Theater has been included in every step and its owner treated like every other with delinquent 2005 property taxes.
In addition, as stated above, the MOA did record a tax lien on the 4th Ave Theater in February 2005. The MOA was planning to take deed to the property through a tax foreclosure if the delinquent taxes remain unpaid as of April, 2007. However, from a practical perspective the MOA will never be in a position to complete a tax foreclosure on the Theater. The Theater has recently (within the last month) been valued by an independent fee appraiser at $3.7 million. A bank holds a deed of trust on the property as security for loans to the property owner. The bank or other interested parties are likely to pay the tax-related delinquency, totaling less than 2% of the property’s value, in order to protect their security interest in the Theater.
8. At what point do “regular” citizens who are behind in taxes get foreclosed upon?
The property tax foreclosure process is specified in State Law and is the same for commercial and residential properties. See the above answer.
9. Did the MOA garnish Gottstein’s PFD?
No, the MOA does not garnish PFD’s for delinquent real property taxes. It instead follows the property tax foreclosure process as provided under State Law.
10. Has the MOA taken anyone’s PFD for amounts owed on back taxes?
The MOA annually garnishes PFD’s to collect delinquent receivables except those caused by delinquent real property taxes. State law provides that delinquent real property taxes be collected through a foreclosure process.
11. Was the fact that it was in arrears kept from the public?
No; the delinquency was published in the MOA foreclosure list in February, 2006 along with all other properties that were delinquent for 2005 real property taxes.
12. Why is the property removed from the MOA website?
The property has not been removed from the Municipal web site. It has consistently been and is currently available for viewing on the web at
http://www.muni.org/services/departments/treasury/property/askViewer.cfm
for taxes; and at
http://propertytax.muni.org/propappraisal/public.html
for appraisals.
The owner of record is Iditarod Properties. On both of the above web pages, the property data can be viewed by typing “Iditarod” in the box labeled “owner”.
13. When was it removed from the website?
The property has never been removed from the Municipal web site.
14. Why was the information that the property wouldn’t be a part of the tax roles left off the press release?
No information was intentionally withheld in the press release or at any other time. No final determination has been made regarding the final tax status of the property. The Municipal Assessor will determine the tax status of the property based on ownership and use when known in the same manner as other similar property.
15. If you take the property off the tax rolls, doesn’t that make my taxes go up?
It is not yet determined what the taxation status of the property will be.
16. Why did the Mayor pursue this even though the voters said no?
Voters said turned down a ballot proposition to authorize issuance of $2 million in general obligation bonds to partially fund the purchase of the Theater. The ballot proposition provided that the bonds would be repaid from property tax revenues levied for this purpose. This was the full extent of the question put before the voters. The project as now proposed does not include the issuance of general obligation debt nor does it use or pledge MOA tax revenues
17. If the Mayor believes the property is worth the sales price why wasn’t it assessed taxes at that higher rate?
The property has been appraised commercially by three separate commercial appraisers in the last year. All three concluded the property had a market value of $3 million or higher. The MOA Assessor has valued the property largely based on the actual income generated by the current owner. The absence of comparable properties has made it difficult for the MOA Assessor to validate income potential of the property in excess of that reported by the current owner. On the other hand, the commercial appraisers have been willing to assume higher income generation potential despite the existence of clearly comparable properties. In addition, the MOA Assessor has viewed the historic nature of the property as detracting from the property’s value while commercial appraisers have generally viewed this as adding to the Theater’s market value. In the case of unique properties like the 4th Avenue Theater, it is not unheard of for commercial appraisers to reach valuations conclusions that differ significantly from that of the MOA Assessor. This is much less likely to occur in the case of residential properties or commercial properties with readily available comparables.
18. How much did Joe Fang offer for the property last year?
There is no public record of that offer.
19. How much has been spent by the MOA on salaries, etc. to put this deal together?
1. The small number of senior Administration members who have the expertise required to assemble a financing plan and transaction of this type do not track their hours by time card. They routinely work long hours, nights, and weekends on this and other projects in the service of the City. This project is a relatively small percentage of their effort and their productivity for the year. 2. Any actual costs incurred in putting together the deal will be reimbursed in full by the project, either from the $250,000 in State grant monies expected to be contributed by the MOA or from revenues from operations of the Theater, so the final net expenditure from Municipal tax revenues will be zero.
20. How much has the MOA spent on advertising?
$1,362.03 was spent. This will to be reimbursed by the Fourth Avenue Theater, LLC, a single purpose entity to be formed to own and operate the property.
21. Is it legal for the city to spend money for advertising on a building it doesn’t own?
It is legal for the MOA to spend money on any activity consistent with its legal powers. Spending funds for community and economic development purposes is within the legal powers of the MOA.
22. Is it legal for the Mayor to spend money without approval from the Assembly?
Yes, funds appropriated by the Assembly can be expended legally without further Assembly approval in amounts up to $50,000.
flag this »January 20, 2007 - 3:02pm | akallegro
Thanks Leslie
My opinion of this discussion has taken a decidedly optimistic up tick. I know there will not necessarily be a way to get all of us in agreement but at least a more open discussion is taking place.
I have a few follow up questions.
Regarding answers 1 and 2
It is clear that Gottstein will profit from this purchase. Nothing wrong with that if the purchase price is legitimate. That is certainly debatable. Since Gottstein will indeed profit from the proposed deal then I think the statement from the December press release is dishonest where it states,
"The deal was made possible in part by owner Gottstein, who agreed to relinquish
his interest in the property at a substantial discount."
again, if the purchase price is legitimate on the open market then I have no problem with a profit being made. Please don't sell it to us as some great sacrifice. When you spin parts of this deal like that the whole thing becomes suspect.
Answer 3 is more spin.
Since we don't own the building we can have no income from it yet. If as the press release states
"City officials have been working with the bank and the Rasmuson Foundation for several months" and ads have been bought and paid for in the paper, then city tax dollars have been spent. This is another example of why we don't trust the whole deal again. The press release is not giving us all the facts.
Answer 4.
A couple questions on this one. You state that documents will show that the MOA will have no responsibility. That's great but the assembly should not be voting on anything till all documents have been created so they and we know just exactly what the final deal is. Secondly I am confused by the statement "Documents related to the financing of the transaction and to the assignment of all rights and responsibilities from the MOA to
a single-purpose entity, the 4th Avenue Theater, LLC".
The press release says the MOA will not take ownership till the loan from the Rasmuson foundation has been paid. Are you saying that for some period of time the MOA will indeed own the theater and responsibilities before the LLC takes over and then it will come back to
the MOA if and when the LLC pays off the loan?
Answer 5
Who and what constitutes the Community Development Entity? If there is a default and the entity is tied to any government is there a logical progression for recourse against that government? Its not clear but it looks like your answer is referring to the theater while
an LLC, what happens if it becomes city property and cant generate the revenue to cover all expenses? Are there documents we can look at that state it will be shut down rather than any city funds being used? Even if documents are written to that affect how is it possible that the city as owner can not be held liable for any debts incurred? If it truly can be
done, legally, then no intelligent vendor will provide goods or services with out cash payment up front.
Thank you for the information on how to find the property online. My bad
for accusing the muni of hiding it.
Answers 14 and 15
My question wasn't was the tax status hidden but why was it not discussed in the press release. I would like press releases to be as complete as possible. Were there no discussions about the ongoing tax status of the property and its relevance to the press release given the fact the same release stated that no taxes would be involved with this deal?
You also have not answered my question "If you take the property off the tax rolls, doesn't that make my taxes go up? We all know the answer. If it comes off the tax roles the rest of us pay more in taxes. If that happens then the statement that no taxes are to be used
is false. If the tax role has not been determined then how can the mayor say with confidence that no tax money is involved? At least meet us half way and retract the statement of no taxes being used and say there is or may be some impact to tax payers. Why did Julie Hasquet state on the Fagan show that the property was going to come off the tax rolls? Was she mistaken or is this a possible change from the original proposal?
Taking another swipe at the dead horse here, the deal has not been laid out completely and thus breeds the suspicion. It is very disconcerting that according to these recent answers that either the deal is being modified or was never as described in the press release and yet the mayor was/is headed to the assembly for approval. The Assembly should table any votes till all documents have been drawn up. When I buy a home I don't let either
the seller, the title company or the bank finalize the details after I sign,neither should the Assembly.
Answer 17
This has been addressed by another blogger much better than I could. I think from that other post it is clear that the appraisal is suspect given the blue sky assumptions used.
Answer 18
Its understandable that the city doesn't know this but Gottstein does. I know he doesn't have to provide it either but seems to me if it was more than the city is offering it would have sold to Fang.
Answer 19
Pointless to pursue this I guess. The mayors definition of actual expenses and mine are not the same.
Answer 20
This is pure arrogance. By spending money on advertising and justifying it by saying it will be reimbursed by the LLC says to the Assembly you will vote yes. I thought they were a separate entity charged with making their own decisions. If the mayor is so confidant that any decision he makes will be upheld by the Assembly
then we have a bigger problem than just this deal.
Thank you for providing answers and I hope to see
a response to these new (and repeat but unanswered) questions soon.
flag this »January 19, 2007 - 12:08pm | democrazy_2007
Leslie Thank You
Great answers…
Couple questions if you don’t mind; since I am new to posting on this site...
My questions:
1-How can a grant given to the city not be considered part of City Funds? The MOA is not considered a private business, is it?
2-When the grant was originally given, wasn’t it issued to help preserve a piece of property already owned by the city? (parks, memorials, trails) I did not know you could be rewarded a grant to save for a rainy day, if so why wasn’t this grant used before the City voted on the 2,000,000?
3-In the history of Anchorage, has a Mayor ever purchased a property that was for sale by the private sector that benefited a resident who 1-2 years behind on property taxes?
-I know the city regularly puts out bids and buys property for further city development, but have they ever purchased a building from the private sector that benefited a private citizen who was trying to sell it?
I have lived in Anchorage a long time and can't remember such a deal ever taking place where the City bought property for sale?
Thanks.
flag this »January 19, 2007 - 12:23pm | leslie_ridle
I'll take a stab
Maybe the vacationing Mayor will chime in as well.
1. The funds were given to the city for a special purpose. They were state funds originally, i believe. They can't be used to lower taxes, raise my salary or any use other than specified. So, even though the city holds the funds, they can only be used for preserving a historic property.
2. I don't know the history of the grant. However, for whatever reason, past Mayors and Assemblies didn't use it. We do feel this use fits under the guidelines of the grant as it was given. The $200K grant wouldn't have been enough to do the deal without all the other parts of the financing.
3. Rememeber--see the answers above--the property taxes are being paid in the sale. He's not being forgiven on them. They come out of the deal. also, the Mayor isn't purchasing property. He helped facilitate a financing deal for the property that includes several different parties.
4. Of course. The city is engaged in purchasing property for rights of ways, easements, and other things all the time. People do make profit. It's all a part of the regular real estate market.
flag this »January 21, 2007 - 9:13pm | mbegich
Sounds good
All your comments sound good.
flag this »3 January 18, 2007 - 11:43pm | robertwhayes49ak
Fairbanks mayor gets busted and our mayor gets away with THIS?
This ain't close at all Danno!
Not with TALK RADIO HERO Dan Fagan on his (trail)!
flag this »2 January 17, 2007 - 7:22pm | akallegro
At least someone is getting a response
here is what the mayors special assistant Leslie Ridle said on this blog a week ago
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1. Don't get your facts from a radio personality.
2. I don't know all the facts about the 4th Avenue theater. So, I've asked Robin Ward to get me the answers to the various questions you're asking. I don't think I'll hear from her until tomorrow so I'll post then.
Thanks!
leslie_ridle | January 10, 2007 - 5:45pm
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Then she posted this
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If you want to send me any directions directly, my email is ridleld@muni.org or you can post them here.
leslie_ridle | January 10, 2007 - 5:46pm
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After I posted over 20 questions she then posted this
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Answers
I'm out on personal leave for a lot of the morning today. I'll send these questions on to Robin and hopefully she'll get back to them soon. I'll post them as soon as I can. thanks!
leslie_ridle | January 11, 2007 - 7:18am
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After I noted that there was no reply again on Jan 12 she posted this
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AKAllegro,
I summarized your questions in to a list for Robin yesterday late afternoon. She let me know this morning she'd work on the list this weekend. When I summarized your list there were 22 different questions, so please give a little time to answer them. thanks.
leslie_ridle | January 12, 2007 - 11:41am
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Its now Jan 17 and still there has been no reply. The mayor responds to the questions he wants to even when he is in Hawaii but not the ones he doesn't want to touch. Sure seems strange that Leslie was all gung ho to take questions and Robin was going to get r done this weekend but now.... not so much.
Mayor if you have decided not to give us all the answers that's fine just be up front about it and say so.
Just in case you do want to answer some more questions here are the ones I posted a week ago.
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Thanks Leslie
That’s really all I'm asking for. I learned a long time ago to get ones info from many sources. The big problem with this theater thing is only one guy is asking in depth questions about it and those that could answer aren't.
Here are a few questions I have.
Did Gottstein get a loan, equity or otherwise days before last Aprils vote? If so then that money is in his pocket so to speak. If the city buys the property for an amount = or > than the loan then he is profiting. I don't have a problem with someone making money on real estate I do it myself. The difference is if I can't sell it on the open market to get that profit, the city doesn’t come in and buy it from me to guarantee that profit. When someone overpays for property its stupidity, when a public official over pays for a friends property with any public funds it is at the least unethical. It might be illegal. In addition the press release says "The deal was made possible in part by owner Gottstein, who agreed to relinquish his interest in the property at a substantial discount." If a loan took place last year or any other time for that matter than that statement is very misleading.
Another line from the Mayors press release says "In order to keep the MOA and the city’s taxpayers from any financial liability, a newly created single-purpose entity called the 4th Avenue Theatre, LLC, will own the facility until the debt is paid off. At that time the MOA will take title to the theatre." Can you provide for us the documents that state that the city will never pay for the loan or the building/employee expenses with anything other than proceeds from operations, both before, and especially after, the LLC turns the property over to the city? What happens if revenues don't cover taxes, utilities, repairs, maintenance, and the employees to run it, in the future when the city owns it? Are there documents that state unequivocally that the city will close it without spending a dime?
Is Gottstein 2 years behind in tax payments? Has no action been taken by the city? By no action I mean no report to credit agencies, or any banks that loaned money on it or foreclosure started? If that is true can all taxpayers expect the same treatment by the city? According to Julie Hasquet we can all do that any time we want and they will not take our property from us. Can you assure us that no person or business has experienced any of the above mentioned negative actions or had property taken from them for the same infractions?
Did the city take Gottsteins permanent fund?
Has the city taken any ones Permanent fund for amounts owed (for anything) for a time equal to or less than Gottstein has been delinquent if indeed he is delinquent?
If the property was in arrears in tax payments why was it kept from the public? The property was, and still is, not available to look at on the muni web site. Someone was told to remove the listing. It is still private property. Who made that decision and why? Please find out if it is muni policy to take delinquent properties off the web site. If so why? If not then again who decided to take this particular property off the site and why? When did it happen, just before the press release on the latest deal or even last year when the bond was being debated and voted on?
There is no mention in the press release that the property would be taken off the tax roles, why was that information left out? The same day this was announced, Julie Hasquet took questions from callers on the Fagan radio show. In less than 3 minutes people where calling in to ask if it was coming off the tax roles. The question was first brought up by callers, not Dan so I think it is fair to say it was certainly a common thought given the fact that the Mayor was making the promise that it would not cost taxpayers a dime. Maybe it is only a dime but if you take something off the tax roles my taxes go up.
The press release states, “City officials have been working with the bank and the Rasmuson Foundation for several months to assemble a financing package” If that is true then it is a fact that the Mayor was using city funds (resources and employee hours) after a no vote, to pursue this. He did not disclosed his intentions before the funds where spent. How is this considered ethical? I'm not saying a mayor shouldn't be allowed to have some latitude in spending and directing employees but shouldn't it be done in the light of day? Was there any discussion about the appearance of impropriety about pursuing this without approval from the assembly after a vote of the people had gone against the very project that was being explored?
Robert Gottstein paid 600k for the property when it was in foreclosure in 1991. Does the Mayor believe that if we waited till it was in foreclosure again that it would go for 3.6 million? If the Mayor/city truly believes it is worth the proposed purchase price why was it not assessed at the higher figure and taxes levied at that rate? Are we to believe that there was no discussion about the proposed bond amounts and value of the theater before the 2006 assessments where sent out? If there was discussion prior to that then why didn't the value of the property increase on the assessment closer to the discussed purchase price? It appears the city was giving Gottstein a break on the assessment or is now paying way to much. The Mayor can't have it both ways. He also seems to be pretty informed on real estate values in general, I’m sure he has noticed….. prices are falling.
How much was Joe Fang offering for the theater last year?
Since city officials have been working on this for months how much has that cost the city in wages and benefits?
How much has the city spent on advertising?
Is it legal for the city to spend money for advertising on a building it doesn't own?
Is it legal for the mayor to spend money without approval from the assembly?
flag this »January 17, 2007 - 9:12pm | QueenBee
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Gee let's see. 7 days and no answer. Let's call the National Guard. For her to even answer the 22 questions, and to research her information as to get you the correct information, and on her own time, give her a BREAK. It was nice for her to even answer your blog.
I mean let's get the right info rather than the wrong answer quickly.
QB
flag this »January 18, 2007 - 9:51am | AK_Logic
The Mayor responded to me… (THANK YOU)
His response to me saying he had a guilty conscience:
No Guilt
No gulty conscience here. I respond because I want to make sure we get the information out the public has requested.
I received almost 56% of the vote this last election.
I do care about your vote, but at the end of the day you will make that decision. All I can do is offer you the information you request.
mbegich | January 17, 2007 - 7:01pm
my reply »
Mr. Mayor please answer???
You are correct and I was one of the 56% who supported you, I was also one of the 59% that opposed the city being involved in the purchase, deal, broker, or whatever else it has been called when the voters were asked about and now told about the 4th Avenue Theatre.
Why would it be so bad if your public had the opportunity to vote on the $250,000? City funds are City funds and last time I checked the City doesn't generate its own revenue, at least not enough to have a discretionary fund for the Mayor to spend on pet projects.
The Historic Grant I read about was from 1981??? Has it just been sitting around for all of these years waiting to be spent? What was the grant originally requested for back in 1981? (sorry if I am off on the date)
I happen to believe the $250,000 could be used on other city lands such as Kincaid Park, and several other City owned land and buildings that can and will need future renovations.
Gottstein is a private citizen who purchased the Theatre to make money. This is the American dream and I don't fault him in anyway for his business ambitions, but I do fault you sir for your ignoring of the City voters and our request to stay out of this deal.
On paper the money may have not come from property taxes, but it is still city money that the voters should have a say in.
Please Mr. Mayor, why not give us a chance to approve the 250,000?
Mr. Mayor you have proved to be a very ethical politician in your years of public service, why risk tarnishing it to benefit Robert Gottstein? You know the Theatre can be saved in other ways, you know it... Please sir, I still believe that you can and will do the right thing…
Thank You
-Logic
flag this »January 18, 2007 - 10:50pm | mbegich
simple answer
The voters voted for the Assembly and they make the final call on this type of allocation of money as they do on millions every week they meet. Yes, it was set aside for this long period of time. It is the remaining dollars from a $2 million dollar state grant. It can only be used for historical preservation. Every thing is public. Thanks again for all your questions I feel I have answered them. We just disagree. If I don't respond to further comments from you it is because we are just going in a circle. We should just agree to disagree and respect each others view. I respect yours.
flag this »January 19, 2007 - 10:51am | akallegro
Thanks again for all your questions I feel I have answered them.
Wow pretty amazing you post that statement when there are about 15 questions above that you nor anyone in your office has ever answered. Just because you stand there with your eyes covered doesn't mean we cant see you.
flag this »January 19, 2007 - 9:39am | democrazy_2007
Mr. Mayor........PLEASE READ................
Hello Mr. Mayor,
I would like you and your staff to read something that I sent to the assembly awhile back:
Democracy is defined as:
1. Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
2. A political or social unit that has such a government.
3. The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
4. Majority rule.
5. The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.
On April 4, 2006 The Voters overwhelmingly voted against Proposition 6 the -ACQUISITION AND RESTORATION OF THE 4TH AVENUE THEATRE BOND.
I hope the voters have the same chance to vote on the $250,000 the Mayor has decided to use on the 4th Avenue Theater this time around. The building in my opinion is definitely worth saving, not by the City, but by the private sector that it is currently a part of. The history of the 4th Avenue Theatre is great, but not greater then the History of our Democracy.
Please remember, that on April 4, 2006, 59% of Anchorage Voters chose against city funding for the 4th Avenue Theatre.
No matter where the money came from, it’s still city money, and the voters chose all of you to represent them.
I trust that all of you will.
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Mr. Mayor, I have been a resident of Anchorage for 58 years and have seen many things. I have always felt the best course of action should be the one chosen by the public in the name of democracy.
Please consider what I have said and enjoy your weekend.
Thank You
flag this »January 19, 2007 - 11:57am | aktraveller
Wrong again.
Your statement - "Please remember, that on April 4, 2006, 59% of Anchorage Voters chose against city funding for the 4th Avenue Theatre." This is incorrect.
Actually, as has been stated several times here, the proposition dealt only with whether or not the city should spend bond funds on the acquisition of the 4th Ave Theater. I like many residents voted against that. I do however support the Mayor's proposal for the theater. The question wasn't whether or not we should spend city money on it, or whether we should buy it, or whether it should be kept in its present state. I've enjoyed the use of the theater in my 43 years up here and am pleased that a solution to maintaining this property in its historic state is being offered that doesn't entail bonding.
flag this »January 19, 2007 - 9:02am | AK_Logic
Thank You Mr. Mayor.............................
I would like to say thank you for taking the time to respond to my questions. I think you are a good man and have done some incredible things for our community.
With that being said, that is why this deal has been so hard for me to except. It was very unlike you to make such a deal Mr. Mayor, and I trust that the assembly will do the right thing to correct it.
Take care,
-Logic
flag this »January 17, 2007 - 9:57pm | akallegro
True Dat Pollen Packer
but I first posted about half the questions Dec. 19 when Kyle finally put a thread up on the 4th buyout asking that burning question
"Will the name of the theater change?"
It only took Julie Hasquet about 2 hours to hit that one out of the park. In addition the mayor has been posting like a fence ever since he hit the tarmac in Hawaii.
flag this »1 January 17, 2007 - 12:05pm | Stags_Leap
this is stupid
Dan Sullivan wants to be Mayor some day -which ain't happening. And he loves to cow-toe with whatever the right wing radio hawks are spinning about Begich.
I wish the pols would just look at the merits and the facts, and not get sidetracked by misinformation and innuendos being spread by those that fear a Begich ticket in 2008.
This is a good deal for the City. The City negotiated terms with the BANK. JG approved it. With the $600K JG is giving back, the actual purchase price is far below the independently appraised value of the darn thing. This is NOT rocket science people.
Sullivan et al. should be working on projects that actually help the City -instead of political posturing, which is 100% designed to smear Begich. What has Dan Sullivan done for the City lately -other than try to impede the Mayor's top initiatives???
flag this »January 17, 2007 - 12:57pm | AK_Logic
Stags, are you nervous?
Dan Sullivan is a good man.
Begich loves the Theater; he should use his connections and organize a group to buy it from Gottstein.
The City should be out of the deal and Begich should listen to the public.
Quit bashing talk radio, because you know darn well that you love the shows when they praise Begich.
flag this »January 17, 2007 - 2:34pm | Stags_Leap
you are insane
and I won't respond any more to your ridiculous statements.
flag this »January 17, 2007 - 3:49pm | AK_Logic
Good Bye Stags
Good response…
I wouldn’t respond anymore either if I were you, it must get frustrating to be on the wrong side of so many issues that appear on this blog. I mean you are really a target :)
You do a decent job, but you should really read what people write before you respond.
Take care Stags and good luck getting your job with Begich and crew…
-Logic
flag this »January 17, 2007 - 4:06pm | lewisandclark
Is that Mike_I ?
And why hasn't that Winchell's wench left the state now that Sarah won? He said he would, and considering the margin I think he'd be packin'.
flag this »January 18, 2007 - 1:57pm | Stags_Leap
are you Forest Gump?
Yep -her 8 point margin of victory was only surpassed by the Mayor's thumping of Frost in April 2006.
HUGE
flag this »January 18, 2007 - 9:22pm | lewisandclark
Sorry about Los Anchorage
I rarely set foot there, and when I do the plan is to get off a plane and get on another or get out quick. Certainly I've never been there for any election, but I might take it as a challenge to wreck your candidate if it looks like it needs to be done.
Once I got stuck there for several days when my union creeps thought it would be a good trick to send me there to go attend a meeting by phone instead of walking to it and actually being there in Juneau.The Grand Masters of Foist, I bet they gave yer boy Begich plenty for hi$ a$piration$.
Those union creeps come up with all sorts of shell game ideas. The best I've seen is the "Magic disappearin' 6.9 Billion." Better than any cards, hoops, hankerchiefs, scarfs, handcuffs, saws and boxes, knives or rabbits in a hat. Leaves you slack-jawed in amazement wondering "Where did it go?"
Hocus pocus on you and the rest of the state, suckers, is the punch line.
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