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  129     September 9, 2008 - 4:03pm | tr1268

The real cost of driving

The I.M. program is a relatively cheap alternative to other more stringent pollution measures. At $30 per year ($60 every other year) the cost of emissions per mile translates to approximately $0.003 (assuming 10,000 miles per year driven). This a small price to pay for the right to pollute and make no mistake, though there have been improvements over the last 30 years, internal combustion engines still pollute. For comparison, the E.P.A. estimates auto pollution (air and water) to cost about $.03 cents per mile (rural and urban averaged). At this rate the REAL cost of your emissions would be $300.00 annually. Polluting the public commons (air and water) is not free so the question becomes what price do you want to pay ? The answer seems rather obvious to me.

  128     July 18, 2008 - 12:51pm | kme_eone

Guess no one wants a recall

I guess no one wants a recall, someone says they want a recall, but no one wants to sign the recall petition paperwork to get the ball rolling. just like some people here in Anchorage, all talk and no action.
I have the paperwork to get this recall going.

kme_eones@yahoo.com

  127     July 18, 2008 - 10:45am | killforfood

The real poluters

China, Korea, Mexico, and the list goes on and on. What little we do with our $60.00 inspection is a drop in the bucket. I know who voted for this rip off and will vote for whoever runs against them. Let he who screws the taxpayers do so at his own risk.

  126     July 18, 2008 - 6:29am | kme_eone

petition signing

Anyone want to sign the petition to get the Assembly I/M 6 off of the Assembly?

kme_eones@yahoo.com

  125     July 17, 2008 - 8:05pm | kme_eone

Assembly I/M 6 recall petition

I have the first part paperwork for the recall. I need a co-sponsor, ten registered voter names, mailing adress, etc. Then this gets handed into the MOA legal to "approve" the recall petition drive. After that is it ok, I need to get lots of voter information for the petition.
If you would like to sign the petition and or co-sponsor, email me kme_eones@yahoo.com

  124     July 17, 2008 - 9:29am | rfn

Wow!

Best political move so far this campaign!

This forces the boy mayor to do something decisive as the primary looms!

No matter whether or not he vetoes he's going to please some folks and convince others that he really is an extreme Liberal.

Let's see which group he feels will give him the most votes as he seeks to have work after being termed out from The Muni! The decision will have little to do with whether I/M is, of itself, a good idea. Just where the most votes can be mined.

  123     July 17, 2008 - 9:26am | kme_eone

Petition paperwork

I am getting the petition paperwork this morning and will be looking for registered MOA voters to sign the paperwork to recall the I/M 6.
The recall will be called Recall of the I/M 6.

  122     July 17, 2008 - 7:29am | myakstyle

MONEY MONEY MONEY !

Are they Ridiculous???? We have bad air quality...? We have some of the best air in the nation! Look around, if I am not right then why do we have moss and lichen growing everywhere around alaska? Including anchorage and eagle river. Look it up, Studies prove that it is a pollution indicator, It only grows where the Air quality is pure. It's just a huge revenue for the municipality.. And another thing, 600,000 people in the whole state? That compared to Millions in cities in other states. We have the same I/M system they use in the state of california, I am highly doubtful that we have pollution at the magnitude they do.... A word of advise : Don't fall for their scams, Focus on more pressing issues like ocean pollutants, being greener, Recycling, Sanitization, Maybe more hydro, solar, or air energy... Thanks for reading my post...

  121     July 17, 2008 - 6:22am | tobay

$30 might not be much...

but one thing it most definitely is, it's mine. I earned it. I resent someone forcing me to give it up, especially for a program of negligible value.

The response of "you can afford it" is not a relevant response. It is the same response that folks give when they talk about oil taxes, "they make a lot, they should give it to us."

If that is your response, turn the argument around. If I come up to you on the street and can prove that you earn more than I do, does that give me the right to demand money because you have more than me. That's right, it isn't panhandling, those folks ask. I said demand, as in make mandatory. Like muggers do.

  120     July 17, 2008 - 5:33am | wadelet

THIS IS THE SAME OLD POLITICAL CRAP.....

this just goes to show everyone that our so called assembly is full of power hungry morons that want to tell you how to live your life, as a shop owner and life long mechanic I KNOW THAT THE IM PROGRAM DID WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BACK IN THE EIGHTIES AND EARLY NINETIES, with the introduction of fuel injection, 99% of all vehicles produced since do not need an im test. this now is an issue of some of our assembly members abusing the power that was bestowed upon them. I DONT WANT OR NEED SOME MORON SITTING AT A DESK TELLING ME THAT I NEED SOMETHING THAT I DAMN WELL KNOW THAT I DONT. ASK ANY OF THE MORONS THAT VOTED TO KEEP THE IM PROGRAM TO DESCRIBE A MULTI PORT FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM AND THE BENEFIT OF CLEANER AIR WE ENJOY FROM IT.I DOUBT THAN EVEN ONE OF THEM CAN, ALL OF YOU PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ALLOW THE ASSEMBLY TO DECIDE HOW YOU LIVE AND DIE OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO CLUE AS TO WHAT "FREEDOM" REALLY IS. NOW ALL OF YOU, 1......2.....3......BAAAAAAAAHHHH

  119     July 16, 2008 - 10:58pm | YoYo1949

A Bunch Of Crybabies

Wah! Wah!

All you crybabies make this sound like some new idea, "Let's IM Test, that's a new idea".

It's not anything new crybabies. Get over it...it's just $60 every other year. Big deal!

  118     July 16, 2008 - 9:44pm | jbpro

Yes, we are all LIVID!

And rightly so. The mental disorder of Liberalism is once again on prominent display. But, how many of the most disturbed of us didn't bother to vote in the last election? We stuck it to ourselves and got what we deserved. We must not let it happen again in November and beyond!

  117     July 16, 2008 - 8:54pm | badkeith

Petition

# Petition Application:
1. Provide a Primary sponsor and an Alternate petition sponsor.
2. Prepare petition language.
3. Collect signatures of 10 qualified municipal voters who agree to act as sponsors.
4. Submit petition application to the Municipal Clerk.

# Petition Application Review:
1. Municipal Attorney reviews petition language for legal sufficiency, or lack thereof.
2. Municipal Clerk verifies the sponsors are qualified municipal voters.
3. Petition Primary sponsor is notified if petition application is certified.
4. If petition application is not certified, Primary sponsor is notified and provided with the Municipal Attorney's memorandum.

#
Petition Circulation:
1. Municipal Clerk prepares master form to be used to gather signatures. The Municipal Clerk shall not be responsible for reproducing copies of the master form.
2. Petition sponsors circulate petition. Petition signatures must be secured within 90 days from the date of first actual circulation.
3. Petition Primary sponsor submits petition signatures to Municipal Clerk.
4. Municipal Clerk verifies the signatures to determine if signers are qualified municipal voters.
5. Primary sponsor is notified if the petition meets the number of qualified municipal voters, or lack thereof.
6. If there are insufficient signatures to certify the petition, the sponsors will have 10 days from the date the Municipal Clerk mails the notification to the Primary sponsor to provide the Municipal Clerk with clear and convincing evidence that signatures not counted were in fact signatures of qualified voters.

http://www.muni.org/assembly2/Petition.cfm

recall info:
www.commerce.state.ak.us/dca/pub/T29_2006.pdf

  116     July 16, 2008 - 8:59pm | badkeith

Man this is Twilite Zone time.....

If you look any were I have ever posted I am always 4 square against most any "conservative" argument I encounter and I had no idea this was a liberal vs conservative argument. I do find it another power grab by government an un needed un wanted visit upon us by big brother. I'll bet the pro IM crowd here are the same bunch of ski nazis that so like to throw their weight around along with the no smoking in bars crowed. All you self professed greenies, friends of the earth should remember that one of the founders of Greenpeace quit in disgust because of people like you. And further more just because it's a hoopty doesn't mean it belches smoke I just put a new motor in mine and it blows cleaner than most new cars. So eat a granola bar eat sh&% but STFU if don't know what the hell your talking about. ;-{l>

  115     July 16, 2008 - 8:27pm | an_inconvenient_democrat

which of the I-M 6 are up for election this april?

Ok folks lets turn this 'Rage into the Anchorage we want to see. Who knows which of the "I-M 6" are coming up for election in this April? I say regardless of whatever district you are from and are represneted by, that we give $60 to whoever is running against one of the member of the I-M 6 coven. Or citizens inititive anyone?

  114     July 16, 2008 - 8:01pm | valleyguy

If I pay

my $60.00, and my car passes, year after year, exactly how does my $60.00 improve air quality? I just want to know. I am a simple sheep.

  113     July 16, 2008 - 5:45pm | akladywolf

Diesels are..

worse yet. Watch the black soot come out the exhaust with the cranked up injectors. If we want clean air, they have to be tested too. If not, they its not fair taxation. They get breaks that gasoline vehicles and hybrids don't get. AND....if its an IM Test, then they have to put the probe in the exhaust or they really don't know if its clean or not. 1996 and newer cars are OBD II systemed and if the computer says they show NO CODES, then the vehicle passes, even if the tailpipe output would of been too high. They don't probe the exhaust after 96, so A car or truck can run rich, and not show up in the codes, and without the probe, doesn't give a true reading. Anyone with a scanner can reset their codes and pass the test 99% of the time.

  112     July 16, 2008 - 5:34pm | shasta2

elections coming.....

The IM testing is another tax and so remember them in April... But for now lets think on the coming November and not re-elect anyone as they have made a career of public office. After two terms in office.. your OUT...

  111     July 16, 2008 - 5:24pm | nospam3

Sold the Cadillac

with it's 500cu hemi, It was nothing more than a municipal revenue stream. The noise and safety checks they are talking about will be coming soon. Make sure your gove box is stocked with extra lube.

  110     July 16, 2008 - 4:26pm | kadams11

Lets revolt

While the Assembly is supported by the beaurecrats and NFPs, it seems like the mechanics and John Q. Public are, for the most part, against it. We are not run by American Lung Association, and the threat of possibly asthmatic grandchildren should not be the deciding factor for our council. RECALL:Sheila Selkregg
Matt Claman
Patrick Flynn
Elvi Gray-Jackson
Mike Gutierrez
Harriett Drummond

  109     July 16, 2008 - 4:13pm | smiller

Wasted money.

I'm sorry I voted for Elvi.

  108     July 16, 2008 - 4:09pm | toomuch

Anchorage Assembly's real mission statement.

TO: Make them think that we might actually do some fair and trustworthy administrating.
Lie to them to make them comply Then renege on all promises.
Beat them down so they know that the Assembly is all powerful.

WE ARE GOD!

  107     July 16, 2008 - 2:39pm | preddington

Oil Recession!

This is what happens when you vote in liberals. Traini is out and Elvi is in- I guess when you have a degree in fashion you know lots about looking good and getting voted for!
The city's bus system is a joke! How many parents are sitting out there in the winter with kids, freezing cold? How about enclosing some of those things!!
How much is spent on stupid programs that don't help the people that need it the most?

How about solutions to our Oil Recession! Why tax people who dislike fueling the economy every 6 years with buying vehicles, the loans for those vehicle, and paying the overhead on big business.
Who donated 1 million to Begich.. BP, Conoco, oil,

  106     July 16, 2008 - 2:34pm | elgoatropo

Anyone... Anyone...

Anyone...

Anyone...

  105     July 16, 2008 - 2:33pm | elgoatropo

I would like to hear from

I would like to hear from just one proponent of the IM program who doesn't work for the Government or for an IM station.

  104     July 16, 2008 - 2:31pm | elgoatropo

Quit Whining...

...and pay your Tea Tax. Not to mention you poll tax, income tax, property tax, fuel tax, water heater tax, unemployment tax, social security tax, bridge tax, auto registration tax, sales tax, building permit tax, etc etc etc etc. At some point, you have to say ENOUGH!

  103     July 16, 2008 - 2:04pm | kadams11

It's not the Council's business

When did it become the council's job to protect us from pollution? Could they also do our laundry or make lunch for us? Hearing that spokeswoman from the ALA chirp about "non-compliance" was ridiculous. Thank you for your concern, Comrade Bukharin, but I'd rather keep my $30 I/M fee and pay the extra $1 per year in property taxes

  102     July 16, 2008 - 1:55pm | okiereader

And the news is?

I've never met a government that passed an opportunity to fleece its citizens. This program is a prime example of big government sticking its hands deep into the pockets of people who have the least say. What's worse, a recall election would benefit this town tremendously, but the people won't do it out of fear that they might get something worse. There is nothing worse than a government that does exactly the opposite of what its people support.

  101     July 16, 2008 - 1:48pm | dolphin_lady

Should make it so

those that "pass do not pay" and those who FAIL DO - they're the ones who are polluters.

  100     July 16, 2008 - 1:32pm | dawnandjoe1

SCAM

More money out of the working people for a scam. Why not vehicle inspections like Virginia so we can pay to have the headlights aligned. I think he need to go.

  99     July 16, 2008 - 12:58pm | hippyhater

dumb

A fool and his money is soon parted.. bye bye 60$ Time for some old fashioned justice